Who/What am I? (The Yes/No) Game.

[Tawmis]

Yikes. I have absolutely no idea what this is, or what Pitfall is, or how it crushed your dreams. I'm completely lost. So ...
Seriously, though ... are you a game that was made in the 90s?
(I didn't play ANY Sierra games until about 1991-2, so I wouldn't have a clue about anything before that. Sorry.)
*puts on a dunce cap and goes to sit in the corner*

It's before the 90s.

And... I am not surprised you don't know what Pitfall is... being the young lad that you are.

Google it. It's a game.

And... about the crushed dreams... it'll taking some memory digging... but it will make sense when it's all clear.

[notbobsmith]

Shot in the dark:

Is the game B.C.'s Quest for Tires?

[Tawmis]

Shot in the dark:

Is the game B.C.'s Quest for Tires?

Yes it is.

Now the rest should be pretty easy.

[notbobsmith]

Shot in the dark:

Is the game B.C.'s Quest for Tires?

Yes it is.

Now the rest should be pretty easy.

Funny thing: if I had asked if it was a "quest" game, you would have said "yes".

So it's on the cover, but not in the game. Based on the screenshots I could find... Are you the dinosaur?

[Tawmis]

Shot in the dark:

Is the game B.C.'s Quest for Tires?

Yes it is.

Now the rest should be pretty easy.

Funny thing: if I had asked if it was a "quest" game, you would have said "yes".

So it's on the cover, but not in the game. Based on the screenshots I could find... Are you the dinosaur?

Hah! I was waiting for someone to ask if it was a Quest game, and figured that's where it would go down the long route.

I am indeed, the dinosaur.

The game, in many ways plays like Pitfall - It plays like Pitfall (Atari) game, because it's a side scroller where you're leaping over objects in your path... the background even looks like Pitfall (not shocking as both games were released on Atari consoles)...





But what you're looking for isn't in the game at all
You're here to rescue your lover
And you will find me on the cover. - All of that was to say, I am not in the game (duh) and "rescue your lover" was to hopefully indicate the dinosaur who has her captive.

There's a good chance you never played it
And when I learned of it, I was upset
Because it would seem
That this game crushed one of my dreams! - This all references to the game my friend and I designed and sent to Sierra called "B.C. Quest" (unaware of the BC Quest for Tires game Sierra had already released). I've probably even posted pictures of my friend Shawn and I dressed up as cavemen (that we also sent to Sierra). We did an NDA and everything with the help of Shawn's father for them to look at it - to have a letter that said something along the lines of "You have some incredible ideas, however, we have already released a game called BC Quest from the popularity of the newspaper..." blah blah.

viewtopic.php?p=19899#p19899
viewtopic.php?p=6566#p6566
viewtopic.php?p=1142#p1142
viewtopic.php?p=1128#p1128 - photos don't exist on the thread anymore thanks to photobucket
viewtopic.php?p=1082#p1082

makes reference to it (too lazy to dig too much more) if you scroll down.

[notbobsmith]

Shot in the dark:

Is the game B.C.'s Quest for Tires?

Yes it is.

Now the rest should be pretty easy.

Funny thing: if I had asked if it was a "quest" game, you would have said "yes".

So it's on the cover, but not in the game. Based on the screenshots I could find... Are you the dinosaur?

Hah! I was waiting for someone to ask if it was a Quest game, and figured that's where it would go down the long route.

I am indeed, the dinosaur.

The game, in many ways plays like Pitfall - It plays like Pitfall (Atari) game, because it's a side scroller where you're leaping over objects in your path... the background even looks like Pitfall (not shocking as both games were released on Atari consoles)...





But what you're looking for isn't in the game at all
You're here to rescue your lover
And you will find me on the cover. - All of that was to say, I am not in the game (duh) and "rescue your lover" was to hopefully indicate the dinosaur who has her captive.

There's a good chance you never played it
And when I learned of it, I was upset
Because it would seem
That this game crushed one of my dreams! - This all references to the game my friend and I designed and sent to Sierra called "B.C. Quest" (unaware of the BC Quest for Tires game Sierra had already released). I've probably even posted pictures of my friend Shawn and I dressed up as cavemen (that we also sent to Sierra). We did an NDA and everything with the help of Shawn's father for them to look at it - to have a letter that said something along the lines of "You have some incredible ideas, however, we have already released a game called BC Quest from the popularity of the newspaper..." blah blah.

viewtopic.php?p=19899#p19899
viewtopic.php?p=6566#p6566
viewtopic.php?p=1142#p1142
viewtopic.php?p=1128#p1128 - photos don't exist on the thread anymore thanks to photobucket
viewtopic.php?p=1082#p1082

makes reference to it (too lazy to dig too much more) if you scroll down.

I think the first time I heard of this game was from here in a "What am I?" game. I saw the title and thought "What on Earth is BC''s Quest for Tires?". I haven't seen that comic in ages. This wouldn't be the first time Sierra made a "clone" of another game. Gobbler, Jawbreaker, Missle Defense all look pretty familiar. (I remember Ken discussing a lawsuit involving Gobbler in Sierra Magazine). Cool story about your game. No reason the name couldn't have been changed.

Anyway, I have something in mind. Ask away.

[Tawmis]

I think the first time I heard of this game was from here in a "What am I?" game. I saw the title and thought "What on Earth is BC''s Quest for Tires?". I haven't seen that comic in ages. This wouldn't be the first time Sierra made a "clone" of another game. Gobbler, Jawbreaker, Missle Defense all look pretty familiar. (I remember Ken discussing a lawsuit involving Gobbler in Sierra Magazine). Cool story about your game. No reason the name couldn't have been changed.
Anyway, I have something in mind. Ask away.

Yeah - so we'd named the game "B.C. Quest" thinking we were being clever. The concept was you doing a few things as this cave man - then end up going on a lake to fetch something - fall through and freeze. And then wash ashore thousands of years later, thawed out. The "B.C." doesn't stand for before Christ, but rather "Before Civilization" - and how you need to make your way through modern day civilization with no clue of how the world works. (It ends, if I remember, you eventually going to a museum and learning what happened) - but I remember one of the things is learning "English" and you learn from someone named Rose Edna Stone. (Which is a reference to Resetta Stone, or something along those lines...) I have the plans for most of the puzzles still. I even designed a box and everything I still have. I should dig up the photos again....

All right, moving on.... to guess what you might be....

We're gonna fire off with the traditional - are you in a game that has 'Quest' anywhere in the title? (King's Quest, ConQuest, etc)

[notbobsmith]

We're gonna fire off with the traditional - are you in a game that has 'Quest' anywhere in the title? (King's Quest, ConQuest, etc)

Yes

[Rath Darkblade]

Are you in one of the big major "Quest" games (i.e. KQ, PQ, QfG, SQ etc.)?

[notbobsmith]

Are you in one of the big major "Quest" games (i.e. KQ, PQ, QfG, SQ etc.)?

Yes

[Tawmis]

In the series, do you take place on Earth at any time (Police Quest, Space Quest [3])?

[Rath Darkblade]

In the series, do you take place on Earth at any time (Police Quest, Space Quest [3])?

Don't forget the Conquest games! They are still big and major -- yes, I only named PQ, KQ, SQ and QfG, but I added an "etc." ... read into that whatever you wish.

NBS, are you alive?

[Tawmis]

Don't forget the Conquest games! They are still big and major -- yes, I only named PQ, KQ, SQ and QfG, but I added an "etc." ... read into that whatever you wish.

Yeah the problem when your quest isn't direct and left to interpretation, if I saw this:

"Are you in one of the big major "Quest" games (i.e. KQ, PQ, QfG, SQ etc.)?"

To me major was: King's Quest, Police Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, Space Quest and Quest for Glory.

Because those were the "founder" games, as I like to think.

I would not include Conquest, or Laura Bow, or Phantasmagoria, or EcoQuest, even though all of those games have two (which seems to indicate success) but would not make them "major" - even Gabriel Knight. To me the "major" ones are the "founders" of the Sierra game franchise.

So how I read your quest, how you read it and how NBS reads it, all varies.

[Rath Darkblade]

Fair enough. I agree with you that the "major" games are KQ, PQ, LSL, SQ and QfG, as they are the ones that inspired the most sequels.

I wouldn't know if they were the "founder" games (i.e. if they were the oldest - surely there were older games?), but when you think of Sierra, those five are the ones that first come to mind.

The problem is, how do we define "major"? If the word "major" is defined only by number of sequels, then GK clearly belongs in the major league, because other than KQ / PQ / LSL / SQ / QfG, GK had the most sequels of all Sierra games.

Then again, Gabriel Knight and Leisure Suit Larry don't have the word "Quest" in the title, so they don't count. (Of course they count officially, but not for the purpose of this question, obviously).

[Tawmis]

Fair enough. I agree with you that the "major" games are KQ, PQ, LSL, SQ and QfG, as they are the ones that inspired the most sequels.
I wouldn't know if they were the "founder" games (i.e. if they were the oldest - surely there were older games?), but when you think of Sierra, those five are the ones that first come to mind.
The problem is, how do we define "major"? If the word "major" is defined only by number of sequels, then GK clearly belongs in the major league, because other than KQ / PQ / LSL / SQ / QfG, GK had the most sequels of all Sierra games.

Oh, Sierra definitely had older games... (Mystery House, for example)... but like a company who has several employees who come and go, but when the big ones finally make it a success, they're often called the founders. Even if they were not the ones who truly founded it.

It's like people say Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax are the founders of thrash music (often called "The Big Four"). There were plenty of other bands doing it, but they're the four that got the most recognition and get the credit for bringing thrash music to the world.