Help with SQ3 and MT-32
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dotkel50
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Re: Help with SQ3 and MT-32
Calm down everyone.
Re: Help with SQ3 and MT-32
DOSBox is not fake DOS.
DOSBox is full pc emulator that emulates a variety of hardware as well including a proper mpu401 emulation. Whether you have a real MPU401 or not doesn't matter. DOSBox doesn't use the advanced features of it.
Secondly. The speed that the game detects inside DOSBox is totally different from the REAL DOS. Especially things related to sound are often very sensitive to speeds and especially sierra games are noticeable for the crappy timing routines that result in a different timing based on the CPU speed.
So your reasoning is flawed by thinking that running inside DOSBox is the same as running it on the same hardware in real dos as DOSBox is created to offer the same hardware to the program and abstract itself from the hardware your pc actually has.
(this includes the BIOS as well, we have coded our own bios)
DOSBox is full pc emulator that emulates a variety of hardware as well including a proper mpu401 emulation. Whether you have a real MPU401 or not doesn't matter. DOSBox doesn't use the advanced features of it.
Secondly. The speed that the game detects inside DOSBox is totally different from the REAL DOS. Especially things related to sound are often very sensitive to speeds and especially sierra games are noticeable for the crappy timing routines that result in a different timing based on the CPU speed.
So your reasoning is flawed by thinking that running inside DOSBox is the same as running it on the same hardware in real dos as DOSBox is created to offer the same hardware to the program and abstract itself from the hardware your pc actually has.
(this includes the BIOS as well, we have coded our own bios)
Re: Help with SQ3 and MT-32
Qbix is just trying to get you rethink it. DOSBox emulates an entire DOS machine, The DOS OS and the hardware. The only hardware that the game will see is the emulated hardware. To anything running in DOSBox the hardware of the host machine is irrelevant. This is why DOSBox works on all of the different platforms it has been ported to.
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envisge0ne
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Re: Help with SQ3 and MT-32
I'm kinda curious. And please don't take this as me criticizing. I was just wondering why you're against using DOSBox? It's much easier to use and the games will play 100% accurately to how they should run in true DOS. And with Collector's installers, you'll have the games installed and running perfectly in seconds.
I can understand the challenge and wanting to overcome it. I've spent hours/days, etc working out a problem for no other reason than to see if I could figure it out. Even when I had people in forums say it couldn't be done, I've managed to do it. Very rewarding
So I was wondering if you want help with the problem just for the sake of getting it to work through true DOS, or if you just don't think DOSBox will work as well as true DOS would. If it's the latter, I'd suggest just giving it a try, using Collectors installers. If it's just to beat an annoying problem of why you can't get them to work in true DOS, I completely understand. And I myself wouldn't give up if it was simply a challenge I wanted to work through.
I can understand the challenge and wanting to overcome it. I've spent hours/days, etc working out a problem for no other reason than to see if I could figure it out. Even when I had people in forums say it couldn't be done, I've managed to do it. Very rewarding
So I was wondering if you want help with the problem just for the sake of getting it to work through true DOS, or if you just don't think DOSBox will work as well as true DOS would. If it's the latter, I'd suggest just giving it a try, using Collectors installers. If it's just to beat an annoying problem of why you can't get them to work in true DOS, I completely understand. And I myself wouldn't give up if it was simply a challenge I wanted to work through.