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I also have the Sierra Originals CD version. I don't have any 64924 files (I have 64929 files). I do however have those quotes below the Day splash screens.
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Collector wrote:I tracked down the problem with the missing quotes. They go AWOL without the patch files 64924.HEP and 64924.SCR. I removed them from the installer because they cause a fatal crash in Gran's attic when you click on the clock. No easy solution here, only a clumsy workaround. You could copy them into the installed PATCHES folder, but remove them before you load the attic and replace them after.
Interesting. I wonder how one would affect the other. Do you know what those files govern in particular? Under what conditions do those files cause the clock crash? Only when running from HDD or does it also happen from the CD?

We're past the clock puzzle for now so I guess I can replace those files safely.
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MusicallyInspired wrote:Hmmm maybe it's some kind of scripting error. Possible to be fixed I wonder? By someone who knows what they're doing of course lol.
I took a look at the files in a hex editor, but did not see anything obvious. I wish NRS had made the tools he made to create his patches public.
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dotkel50 wrote:I also have the Sierra Originals CD version. I don't have any 64924 files (I have 64929 files). I do however have those quotes below the Day splash screens.
Curious. I have the first release and the Sierra Originals and both do not display without the files and both crash when clicking on the clock. And you don't have the subtitles turned on? Do you see them in the Patches directory on the CD?
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@ jujigatame. You need both files or none. They have to be used as a pair. The SCR is a script patch and the HEP is a heap (for memory management) file. I tested it with the original installer and the SHP installer using the CD for resources. It makes no difference.
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Yes they are on the cd.
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And you don't have subtitles turned on?
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I do have subtitles turned on.
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dotkel50 wrote:I do have subtitles turned on.
Then that is why. With those files the quotes are present regardless of whether the subtitles are on or off. If you have them turned off without those two patch files the quotes will be missing.
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OK then. :lol:
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I have it all installed and ready for play...!
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Collector wrote:@ jujigatame. You need both files or none. They have to be used as a pair. The SCR is a script patch and the HEP is a heap (for memory management) file. I tested it with the original installer and the SHP installer using the CD for resources. It makes no difference.
So basically what I'm experiencing is a bug in the original game that was patched in the subsequent CD releases? That's interesting.

This also means that anyone who attempts playing the patched game through DOSBox as-is will always encounter the clock crash?
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Correct.
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Shortly, I will leave for the week-end. As soon as I get back, on Sunday, I'll post the Day 1 info!
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I just purchased this game online. Looking forward to playing it!
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