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Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 9:45 am
by DeadPoolX
Well, a lot of the so-called "science" in comics is hardly realistic since it relies more on the "rule of cool" trope than anything else.

I mean, look at the heroes listed above: Peter Parker is bitten by a radioactive spider and gets spider powers, Bruce Banner is bombarded with gamma rays and becomes the Hulk, Steve Rogers gets a top secret super soldier serum (in the 1940s no less) that turns his scrawny frame into a muscle-bound superhero, and as we've noted, Tony Stark has a source of potentially unlimited energy stuck in his chest and suits that operate on tech that's impossible in the real world.

In the real world, Bruce Banner would be dead due to all that radiation, Peter Parker would be dead or nothing would've happened at all (maybe cancer later on), and Steven Rogers would've also been dead or nothing would've happened. Tony Stark would certainly be dead. In no scenario does anyone get super powers or have the technology to create an arc reactor and sci-fi power suits.

BTW... Stark does have surgery performed and the arc reactor removed at the end of Iron Man 3. That said, the arc reactor saves him from Loki's mind control in Avengers right before the Battle of New York, so that was a useful — but unexpected — side effect of having it embedded in his chest.

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:52 pm
by Rath Darkblade
Just wondering: how much radiation is Bruce Banner subjected to? *curious* I know that the word 'radiation' gets thrown around a lot by people who don't know what they're talking about, like politicians and newsreaders and environmental activists, and they all say the same thing: that if you get exposed to even the tiniest bit of radiation, you'll get horribly sick or die a horrible death. :P

In reality, people get exposed to radiation all the time - from the sun, from a microwave, from your TV and so on. Even eating a banana gives you a tiny, tiny bit of radiation. ;) Like anything, it depends on the dose - how much of it you get. The wiki-link includes a diagram that shows how much radiation you'd get from various sources, as well as how much would do what to you. (Predictably, eating a banana is harmless). ;)

Peter Parker's radioactive spider might be plausible. Again, I'm wondering: how did the spider become radioactive? How much radioactive material (and what kind) was it coated with? What kind of spider was it, and what kind of venom did it carry? Did Peter get anti-venom afterwards? If we knew that, we'd know what'd happen to Peter in real life. (Of course he wouldn't become Spider-Man, though). ;)

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 12:25 am
by Tawmis
Rath Darkblade wrote: Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:52 pm Just wondering: how much radiation is Bruce Banner subjected to? *curious* I know that the word 'radiation' gets thrown around a lot by people who don't know what they're talking about, like politicians and newsreaders and environmental activists, and they all say the same thing: that if you get exposed to even the tiniest bit of radiation, you'll get horribly sick or die a horrible death. :P
Peter Parker's radioactive spider might be plausible. Again, I'm wondering: how did the spider become radioactive? How much radioactive material (and what kind) was it coated with? What kind of spider was it, and what kind of venom did it carry? Did Peter get anti-venom afterwards? If we knew that, we'd know what'd happen to Peter in real life. (Of course he wouldn't become Spider-Man, though). ;)
Bruce Banner is noted, being miles from Ground Zero - but is clearly bathed in the "mysterious" Gamma Radiation.
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For Spider-Man/Peter Parker, the Spider ends up between something emitting radiation and bites Peter, shortly after.
The type of spider is not noted (not sure if it ever came up after). But I thought it was weird that Peter wondered why it burned. I assume he means more than normal, like when you get a shot and you can feel it coursing in your veins (like a tetanus shot). But he also notes the spider is glowing (from the radiation exposure).It's this bite into Peter's bloodstream that "alters" some of his DNA (to give him his "Spider Sense", strength, dexterity, and wall crawling).
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Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:21 am
by DeadPoolX
Why do you have the same panel posted twice for the Hulk? I know they're colored differently, but otherwise it's exactly the same.

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:41 am
by MusicallyInspired
I'd add Superman and maybe Wolverine to that list of instantly recognizable super heroes.

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:35 am
by DeadPoolX
MusicallyInspired wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:41 am I'd add Superman and maybe Wolverine to that list of instantly recognizable super heroes.
I already mentioned Superman, but good point about Wolverine. I'd forgotten how popular he's become, especially since the movies.

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:26 pm
by MusicallyInspired
Blah so you did. Don't know why I thought otherwise.

But yeah, even before the movies I knew about Wolverine and Spiderman as Marvel heroes. And I was not a big comic book person. I did not, however, realize that he is canonically supposed to be quite short until years after the movies.

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:26 pm
by Tawmis
DeadPoolX wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:21 am Why do you have the same panel posted twice for the Hulk? I know they're colored differently, but otherwise it's exactly the same.
In case ye were like, "That's not the panel I remember."

So I posted original and recolored. :D

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:32 am
by Rath Darkblade
Er, what's going on here? :shock: I already had one post here that seems to have unaccountably disappeared. But I'm almost 99% sure I replied to Tawm last night (after he posted the Hulk and Spiderman comics). Yet, now my reply is gone? :shock:

That's the second time my posts on this thread have gone missing in about 2-3 days. Weird!

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:27 am
by Tawmis
Rath Darkblade wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 3:32 am Er, what's going on here? :shock: I already had one post here that seems to have unaccountably disappeared. But I'm almost 99% sure I replied to Tawm last night (after he posted the Hulk and Spiderman comics). Yet, now my reply is gone? :shock:
That's the second time my posts on this thread have gone missing in about 2-3 days. Weird!
You shouldn't drink and post.

I've been off and on all day, the last post I saw from you (in this thread) was the one directly before the images (http://sierrahelp.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 474#p89474). I never saw a reply from you in this thread after the images were posted. So that was since early this yesterday morning.

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:29 am
by Tawmis
DeadPoolX wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:35 am
MusicallyInspired wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:41 am I'd add Superman and maybe Wolverine to that list of instantly recognizable super heroes.
I already mentioned Superman, but good point about Wolverine. I'd forgotten how popular he's become, especially since the movies.
So you think Wolverine became MORE recognizable, from the X-Men and Wolverine movies, then a franchise that's gone on much longer and gotten much more promotion (MCU - ie, Captain America, Thor, etc)?

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:37 pm
by DeadPoolX
MusicallyInspired wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 6:26 pmI did not, however, realize that he is canonically supposed to be quite short until years after the movies.
Yeah, Wolverine is canonically 5' 3" which made Hugh Jackman's 6' 2.5" stature seem very out of place for the character. I can see why they didn't go with someone who's 5' 3" or attempt to make Jackman look shorter, but for those of us who've read the comics it did seem slightly jarring.
Tawmis wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 4:29 am
DeadPoolX wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:35 am
MusicallyInspired wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:41 am I'd add Superman and maybe Wolverine to that list of instantly recognizable super heroes.
I already mentioned Superman, but good point about Wolverine. I'd forgotten how popular he's become, especially since the movies.
So you think Wolverine became MORE recognizable, from the X-Men and Wolverine movies, then a franchise that's gone on much longer and gotten much more promotion (MCU - ie, Captain America, Thor, etc)?
Wolverine hasn't appeared in the MCU (yet... Disney did purchase FOX) and considering the overall success of the X-Men films, I think Wolverine definitely gained far more exposure and recognition than he did from comics or the animated series.

(NOTE: Maia and I haven't seen Spider-Man: No Way Home yet and the introduction of the multiverse into the MCU and we've avoided spoilers so far, so please don't say anything that could be construed as a spoiler... such as the X-Men and/or Wolverine making an appearance.)

That said, Wolverine still doesn't have the mass market appeal of Spider-Man (and to some degree, Captain America and the Hulk) or Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman. But before the MCU, he was certainly better known to the public than Iron Man, Black Widow, Hawkeye, or Nick Fury and the entirety of S.H.I.E.L.D. itself.

Thor is an interesting case because the Marvel version probably wasn't all that well known, but lots of people had heard of the mythological Norse god.

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:10 pm
by Rath Darkblade
Just wondering: I've seen bits of the Thor film (i.e. the one where he gets transformed into a mortal and can't lift his mighty hammer). ;) IIRC, the only named deities there were Thor, Loki and Odin. I saw the film a year or two ago, so I can't remember much about details - but ... are any other Norse deities named in the film or comic?

I'm thinking more about the more obscure deities like Baldr, Njörður, Tyr, Forseti, Bragi and so on. (If you're not sure who I'm talking about, take a look: the lesser-known gods of Norse mythology) ;)

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:13 pm
by Tawmis
Rath Darkblade wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:10 pm Just wondering: I've seen bits of the Thor film (i.e. the one where he gets transformed into a mortal and can't lift his mighty hammer). ;) IIRC, the only named deities there were Thor, Loki and Odin. I saw the film a year or two ago, so I can't remember much about details - but ... are any other Norse deities named in the film or comic?
I'm thinking more about the more obscure deities like Baldr, Njörður, Tyr, Forseti, Bragi and so on. (If you're not sure who I'm talking about, take a look: the lesser-known gods of Norse mythology) ;)
You insult me by thinking I don't know Norse mythology. :D

As for the comic, yes.

Baldr (as Baldur) has appeared for a VERY long time in the comics. Almost from the start. As has Heimdall. Tyr also appears. And...
Oh, forget it.

Here -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... vel_Comics

The ones that are created for the comic are noted as such, as well as the slight name variations from lore to comics.

Re: What are you playing now?

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:19 pm
by Tawmis
DeadPoolX wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:37 pm Wolverine hasn't appeared in the MCU (yet... Disney did purchase FOX) and considering the overall success of the X-Men films, I think Wolverine definitely gained far more exposure and recognition than he did from comics or the animated series.
Right. That's what I was saying.
You think Wolverine became more well known than Captain America?
Even though the X-Men movies weren't nearly as successful as the MCU/Disney movies?
DeadPoolX wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:37 pm (NOTE: Maia and I haven't seen Spider-Man: No Way Home yet and the introduction of the multiverse into the MCU and we've avoided spoilers so far, so please don't say anything that could be construed as a spoiler... such as the X-Men and/or Wolverine making an appearance.)
Nor have I. I've not seen a movie in the theater since everything started happening with my wife's health condition, ironically, right on time with the pandemic starting.

So I never see any movies until they hit Disney+, HULU, Netflix, etc.
DeadPoolX wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 1:37 pm Thor is an interesting case because the Marvel version probably wasn't all that well known, but lots of people had heard of the mythological Norse god.
And that Chris Hemsworth, is pretty much a god of thunder down under, for many women.
And men.

:D