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Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 6:52 pm
by Collector
Tawmis wrote:adeyke wrote:Well, since SQ4 is an SCI1 game, any graphics would have to be bitmapped, even if they look identical to something from an AGI or SCI0 game. So they could either use whatever vector-based tools they had and then convert the result to bitmap, or directly use bitmap-based tools and just mimic the style.
That's for backgrounds. The character sprites are always bitmap-based, so the only difference between making those in EGA vs VGA is how many colors you have available.
I think it would have been more of a headache to do EGA graphics in a VGA game. Because everything - except Wilco - would have to be EGA. And I feel like that would have been tedious. (Funny, yes, but tedious)
Wouldn't have to be. You just limit your palette as you paint. Remember that dithering can be done as a fill. They may have even just taken the original pic resources from the earlier games and simply converted them to SCI1/SCI1.1 resources. There are even some fan made utilities that can convert AGI Pic resources to SCI0. The new version of SCI Companion can import images to SCI0 and SCI1.1 Pic resources.
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 7:57 pm
by adeyke
The SQ1 you visit is already EGA, and the characters from SQ1 (bartender and performers) are also EGA. As it stands, only Roger and the bikers are VGA. I don't think it's a huge leap to go from that to having only Roger be VGA. Though, like I said, coming up with an actual scenario of the kind I would have wanted to see would still be a challenge.
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Mon May 02, 2016 9:49 pm
by Collector
Also don't forget that both the pic resource and the views have to share the same 8-bit palette.
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This pic only uses 5 colors, which means that the views can use any of these 5 colors, the colors of the global palette (the 999 palette) and any other colors up to the total 256 colors minus the pic and global palettes.
This view only uses about 10 colors. Using the two in the same room would be no trouble and would still allow for more views. You are more likely to run out of hunk space before you would run out of palette colors.
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Tue May 03, 2016 12:51 am
by Tawmis
adeyke wrote:The SQ1 you visit is already EGA, and the characters from SQ1 (bartender and performers) are also EGA. As it stands, only Roger and the bikers are VGA. I don't think it's a huge leap to go from that to having only Roger be VGA. Though, like I said, coming up with an actual scenario of the kind I would have wanted to see would still be a challenge.
You're correct (no surprise!) I totally thought that it was still VGA graphics (that looked EGA - like nicely colored, but simple)... But no, they did the full EGA look...
![Image](http://www.sierraclassicgaming.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/sq4_timepod_sq1.jpg)
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 3:05 am
by Datadog
Rather than Larry being a time traveler, I'd like to propose a theory that the science lab beneath the street (the one you see whenever Larry dies in the alley) is an alien facility that has been pumping out Larry clones/robots/zombies for almost thirty years. And they've been sending copies of Larry into Lost Wages for decades as part of an experiment to understand the human emotion called "love".
Meanwhile, one copy escaped and went on to star in several sequels. A slave to his original programming with no memory of what he really is, this rogue Larry wandered the Earth, obsessively seeking love in all the wrong places until the end of LSL7 where the aliens finally located and recovered him.
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 11:09 am
by Tawmis
Datadog wrote:Rather than Larry being a time traveler, I'd like to propose a theory that the science lab beneath the street (the one you see whenever Larry dies in the alley) is an alien facility that has been pumping out Larry clones/robots/zombies for almost thirty years. And they've been sending copies of Larry into Lost Wages for decades as part of an experiment to understand the human emotion called "love".
Meanwhile, one copy escaped and went on to star in several sequels. A slave to his original programming with no memory of what he really is, this rogue Larry wandered the Earth, obsessively seeking love in all the wrong places until the end of LSL7 where the aliens finally located and recovered him.
This sounds like a fan fiction in the making...
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Sun May 08, 2016 12:56 pm
by Collector
Or another short fan game.
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:36 pm
by SierraDude81
Datadog wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2016 3:05 am
Rather than Larry being a time traveler, I'd like to propose a theory that the science lab beneath the street (the one you see whenever Larry dies in the alley) is an alien facility that has been pumping out Larry clones/robots/zombies for almost thirty years. And they've been sending copies of Larry into Lost Wages for decades as part of an experiment to understand the human emotion called "love".
Meanwhile, one copy escaped and went on to star in several sequels. A slave to his original programming with no memory of what he really is, this rogue Larry wandered the Earth, obsessively seeking love in all the wrong places until the end of LSL7 where the aliens finally located and recovered him.
And Datadog shattered the universe by predicting WDDD! And I further shattered the universe by not only replying to this dusty topic, but also by beginning a sentence with 'And' :p
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:01 pm
by Tawmis
SierraDude81 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 2:36 pm
Datadog wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2016 3:05 am
Rather than Larry being a time traveler, I'd like to propose a theory that the science lab beneath the street (the one you see whenever Larry dies in the alley) is an alien facility that has been pumping out Larry clones/robots/zombies for almost thirty years. And they've been sending copies of Larry into Lost Wages for decades as part of an experiment to understand the human emotion called "love".
Meanwhile, one copy escaped and went on to star in several sequels. A slave to his original programming with no memory of what he really is, this rogue Larry wandered the Earth, obsessively seeking love in all the wrong places until the end of LSL7 where the aliens finally located and recovered him.
And Datadog shattered the universe by predicting WDDD! And I further shattered the universe by not only replying to this dusty topic, but also by beginning a sentence with 'And' :p
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I've not tried any of the latest two "Leisure Suit Larry" games.
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:13 pm
by Rath Darkblade
*hands SierraDude the Staff of Necromancy +5-Years*
Tawmis wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 7:01 pm
![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I've not tried any of the latest two "Leisure Suit Larry" games.
I have. They're ... um, interesting. But I wouldn't play them again. I kind of regret getting them, even on sale.
They trade on stereotypes (especially the first one). While
all Larry games have stereotypes to some extent, the latest ones turn the notch up to 11, to the point where sometimes it stops being funny and starts being offensive.
Re: Is Larry a time traveler/Dimension hopper?
Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2021 7:21 pm
by Tawmis
Rest of this thread was split (due to veering off topic) and
moved here.