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I knew I had made a thread here about issues with Sony Vegas and DOSBox.

Casting "Resurrection" spell. :D

So it's weird - that Sony Vegas 13 doesn't import raw captured video from DOSBox, but Sony Vegas 10 does.

So this is for SQ1AGI...

Now what I have been struggling with - I am saving it at 320x200 - and it looks crisp - right up to the point where Roger gets in the ship to escape.

Where it suddenly turns super blurry. I thought maybe it was something with that clip - but that same clip is pretty much the entire time Roger gets the Astral Body cartridge to the escape. So it's one file.

I've tried a few things.

I even used VLC to export to MP4 format, and it couldn't do it.

Exported to MPG/TS - and that lets me import.

Now gonna save them all as one file and see if I can avoid the blur.
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Tawmis wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:16 pm I used VLC - exported to MPG/TS - and that lets me import.
This did the trick!
Looks crisp now, through the whole video.
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Tawmis wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 1:16 pm Casting "Resurrection" spell. :D
*hands Tawm the Mantle of Dread Necromancy +5, Robes of Raising +10 and Staff of Slaying +15* :twisted:
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DOSBox captures footage with the ZMBV codec (zip motion block video) and doesn't play nice with a lot of other programs. I have to convert all my raw captures with Handbrake to make them usable for anything. It's just too bad that DOSBox doesn't capture footage aspect ratio-corrected. Have to do that manually (320x200 to 320x240) AFTER converting from ZMBV to something more conventional and usable like MPEG x264.
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I was going to suggest that he didn't have ZMBV installed on his system. (right click on zmbv.inf in the "DOSBox\Video Codec" folder and choose install)
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It's installed; because I did that for Sony Vegas 10. Just for some reason Sony Vegas 13 doesn't want to work with it.
MusicallyInspired wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 10:42 pm It's just too bad that DOSBox doesn't capture footage aspect ratio-corrected. Have to do that manually (320x200 to 320x240) AFTER converting from ZMBV to something more conventional and usable like MPEG x264.
This confuses me - isn't 320x200 aspect ratio correct - when I capture it from DOSBox I am seeing 320x200 for Space Quest AGI.

However, when I ran it through Handbrake - it did something weird - and turned some into like 320x184 or something. But not all of them.

So I had to find another way (which ended up being the VLC method above which kept it at 320x200)
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Collector wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:18 pm I was going to suggest that he didn't have ZMBV installed on his system. (right click on zmbv.inf in the "DOSBox\Video Codec" folder and choose install)

That's never helped me either.

Tawmis wrote: Tue Aug 10, 2021 11:53 pm This confuses me - isn't 320x200 aspect ratio correct - when I capture it from DOSBox I am seeing 320x200 for Space Quest AGI.
Yes and no. Yes on an old CRT monitor, no on a modern LCD display. On an old CRT monitor the 320x200 image was stretched to a 4:3 aspect ratio with "tall pixels." On modern LCD displays pixels are square and so 320x200 is a widescreen native aspect ratio and.....agh just read this lol. I get into this so much this has become my goto:

https://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/FelipeP ... _ratio.php

What's happening with your recorded footage is DOSBox's aspect ratio correction feature is stretching the output video (the pixels) vertically to a 320x240 resolution (or the next factored multiplication if you're running DOSBox with a scaler). But captured footage from DOSBox with ZMBV ignores aspect ratio correction and any other filters or scalers you may have enabled so the resulting video ends up being the incorrect aspect ratio again and you need to post-process the video for the correct ratio.

However, when I ran it through Handbrake - it did something weird - and turned some into like 320x184 or something. But not all of them.

You have to go to the Dimensions tab and make sure Cropping is set to Custom and all the fields set to zero (top, left, right, bottom) because it's set to crop black bars from all around the video (for widescreen movies for instance to make the video file size smaller). However, being an AGI game it's actually cropping the bottom half of the screen right off. Also in the same tab set the Anamorphic mode to None just in case.

So I had to find another way (which ended up being the VLC method above which kept it at 320x200)

Whatever works. :)
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MusicallyInspired wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:11 am That's never helped me either.
It has always worked for me, but then I will admit that I have not tried it on Win10.
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Collector wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:11 am
MusicallyInspired wrote: Wed Aug 11, 2021 1:11 am That's never helped me either.
It has always worked for me, but then I will admit that I have not tried it on Win10.
I'm on Win 7, myself. Like I said, it says it installs. And for Sony Vegas 10, it can import DOSBox directly. It's just Sony Vegas 13 that refuses it. :D But no biggie for me. :D
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