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Re: Avengers: EndGame [Spoilers]
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:51 am
by MusicallyInspired
I'm speaking more generally, not just about Marvel movies.
Tawmis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:46 am
I would think she would have to go back? Because if she doesn't go back, t
hen she doesn't die "for Thanos" to get the Soul Gem. Which I would think, further make a mess of the time line.
Technically she can't because THAT Thanos was snapped out of existence. So really they've screwed things up far more than they ever possibly could by not returning Gamora lol.
Re: Avengers: EndGame [Spoilers]
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:58 am
by Datadog
Tawmis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:46 amI would think she would have to go back? Because if she doesn't go back, t
hen she doesn't die "for Thanos" to get the Soul Gem. Which I would think, further make a mess of the time line.
Warning: Me overthinking
time travel is about to happen.
[Overthinking]
When both Nebulas "collide" in 2014, it splinters off a separate Timeline-B, creating a separate Thanos, Nebula, and Gamora. The Gamora in Timeline-A still exists, carries on to join the Guardians and eventually dies. Meanwhile Timeline-B merges back into Timeline-A when Nebula-B uses Nebula-A's time-suit to return to its point of origin in 2023-A, bringing Thanos-B and Gamora-B with it. Timeline-B is no longered splintered and becomes part of Timeline-A's history starting in 2023.
Meanwhile, Captain America goes back to return the Infinity Stones and Thor's Hammer to their proper places in Timeline-A. This prevents their timeline from splintering, and everything that happened in "Infinity War" isn't undone; it remains part of Timeline-A's history. Furthermore, he hooks up with Peggy and becomes her secret husband - which is still part of Timeline-A apparently.
The only thing that messes up the timeline are the unresolved splinters. The biggest one is Loki escaping in 2012, which probably created a Timeline-C which won't get resolved anytime soon. And sending Gamora-B back in time would either result in two Gamoras in Timeline-A, or a Timeline-D. We don't know why splintered timelines are a problem yet, but Tilda Swinton worries about it, so that's enough for me.
[/Overthinking]
Re: Avengers: EndGame [Spoilers]
Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 6:35 pm
by Tawmis
Datadog wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:58 am
Warning: Me overthinking
time travel is about to happen.
[Overthinking]
The only thing that messes up the timeline are the unresolved splinters. The biggest one is Loki escaping in 2012, which probably created a Timeline-C which won't get resolved anytime soon.
[/Overthinking]
Oh, I am pretty sure we will hear about this
much sooner than you may realize.
Re: Avengers: EndGame [Spoilers]
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:14 pm
by MusicallyInspired
MusicallyInspired wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 10:51 am
I'm speaking more generally, not just about Marvel movies.
Tawmis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:46 am
I would think she would have to go back? Because if she doesn't go back, t
hen she doesn't die "for Thanos" to get the Soul Gem. Which I would think, further make a mess of the time line.
Technically she can't because THAT Thanos was snapped out of existence. So really they've screwed things up far more than they ever possibly could by not returning Gamora lol.
I meant not returning
Thanos not
Gamora. And sorry, I forgot to spoiler tag.
The one thing that totally messes up this new time travel theory (in movies anyway) is that
Cap ended up growing old from living in the past to the present. Technically that should be a separate timeline and Cap should have just never returned in any form back into Timeline A. But that's ok, I forgive it. It was a fun ride and that's all that matters. If this were Back to the Future then I would have issues.
Re: Avengers: EndGame [Spoilers]
Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 3:09 pm
by Tawmis
MusicallyInspired wrote: ↑Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:14 pm
If this were Back to the Future then I would have issues.
Re: Avengers: EndGame [Spoilers]
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:05 am
by MusicallyInspired
Lol no, I'm saying Back To The Future revolved around Time Travel as a central plot point. It's what the movie is all about. The Avengers and the MCU is not a Time Travel Franchise. So I don't expect a whole lot of continuity as much as I would from Back to the Future which has loads of continuity. Loads more than Endgame, anyway.
Re: Avengers: EndGame [Spoilers]
Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 3:02 am
by Tawmis
MusicallyInspired wrote: ↑Mon Jul 08, 2019 12:05 am
Lol no, I'm saying Back To The Future revolved around Time Travel as a central plot point. It's what the movie is all about. The Avengers and the MCU is not a Time Travel Franchise. So I don't expect a whole lot of continuity as much as I would from Back to the Future which has loads of continuity. Loads more than Endgame, anyway.
Hopefully you caught the reference I was making? Because that's what Tony Stark (Iron Man) says to Scott Lang (Ant-Man) at the lodge when they first come to Tony with the time travel plan.
Re: Avengers: EndGame [Spoilers]
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 2:54 pm
by MusicallyInspired
Yeah I caught it. Pretty obvious from the screenshot.