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Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 3:09 am
by Maiandra
I don't really understand the point of Twitter either—if it's used to broadcast the inane details of one's everyday life. I imagine it was originally intended to share quick thoughts in general, like the questions that someone might ask themselves (i.e. "I wonder why we [insert cultural practice here]?" or "Why does [insert group here] always act like [insert action here]?"). Once people started jumping on the bandwagon and felt the need to be involved, they probably couldn't think of anything to say and just commented on what they were doing at the time so they looked like they knew what they were doing . ;)

I don't really care if other people do it. I can't be bothered, frankly, but if it makes them happy and it's not hurting anyone, then I don't really have a problem with it. I actually think using it for humour (i.e. the entire Cobra Commander thing) is a good idea. THAT could be funny. :D

I could argue that it's promoting a culture of self-absorption where people determine their self-worth by how many followers they have and may potentially do some "unsavoury" things to get that attention, but that would sound kind of paranoid and alarmist. On the other hand, it also sounds a lot like high school. ;)

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:05 am
by Rath Darkblade
Tawmis wrote:
misslilo wrote:Simplistic my butt! Try boring, uninteresting, a mess... you name it. :lol:
And while I'm at it.. so is facebook and all the other services like it.
It's as if people think it's OK these places to forget all about gramma and contract each and every word, so it's impossible to read.
Terrible! ;)
There's a certain sense of irony to be found here. :)
It's too bad that people forget all about grandma... :(

*grin*

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:43 pm
by therogue
Well, its not all what people have eaten today and random stuff.

It looks like that at the moment a lot of the little news that is covering the post election events in Iran are using twitter to get it out there.

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 6:15 am
by Rath Darkblade
That's true. I saw on the news that people in Iran are using Twitter to organise big rallies against Ahmadenijad. More power to them, I say! :D

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:45 am
by Tawmis
Just for you DPX wrote: An avid Twitter user, Alana Taylor wrote a song about the social networking site and uploaded it to YouTube last April. Soon, her Twitter feed became flooded with messages linking to it.

Twitter makes users "feel like the center of a social universe," one expert says.

Twitter makes users "feel like the center of a social universe," one expert says.

"'Everyone was like, 'RT: Alana Taylor's Twitter song,' " said Taylor, 21, a student at New York University and marketing manager at OneTXT. "It just spread, and a lot of it had to do with retweeting."

Retweeting, represented on Twitter with the symbol "RT," means a user has taken someone else's tweet -- or message -- and copied part or all of it. The original author is often credited through the convention "@username," although sometimes the true source gets lost as messages spread further.

Apart from being used to share amusing links such as Taylor's video, retweeting has taken on a powerful role in political activism. Many young protesters in Iran have used Twitter to organize demonstrations against the results of the recent election, and the words, photos and videos of people on the ground in the country have spread globally through retweeting.

A video of a dying woman in Iran, known only as "Neda," has been shared and mentioned so much in tweets and retweets that the name has been a "trending topic" on Twitter since Saturday.

One frequent user who has retweeted videos from Iran is Kyle Aevermann, 22, from Itasca, Illinois. Generally the retweets he receives in his feed can be humorous or even "bizarre," but lately there's been a lot of news, especially regarding Iran, he said.

"Sometimes it's a good way to just get information out since not everyone is following the same people, so it kind of, like, expands who you're following in some ways," Aevermann said.

Retweets about Iran are a prime example of how the act of passing on someone else's tweet combines elements of broadcast media and person-to-person interaction, said Dr. Nicholas Christakis, an internist and sociologist at Harvard University and author of the forthcoming book "Connected: The Surprising Power of Our Social Networks and How They Shape Our Lives."

Information goes out to a lot of people, like a newspaper, but only to a select group of people -- "followers" -- who will likely be interested in it, he said.

"Retweeting tends to segment the market and reach those individuals who are most likely to be responsive to the information," Christakis said.

Retweets are also gaining traction in the search engine world. A new tool called Topsy is powered by tweets and shows the Twitter users considered most "influential" about topics; users get more influence the more their links get retweeted. "So, yes, retweets are the new currency on the Web," Michael Arrington wrote last month on TechCrunch, his popular industry blog.

One of the central forces of social networks such as Twitter and Facebook is the way these services make users "feel like the center of a social universe," said Daniel Berdichevsky, editor of the forthcoming book "The Psychology of Facebook," in an e-mail.

The label "followers" on Twitter makes users feel like "leaders," and puts extra pressure on users to both lead and matter to other people -- which is where retweeting comes in.

"You're leading people to something that you think is valuable for them -- the online equivalent of a watering hole or fresh prey," he said. "And you're mattering because your re-tweet presumably gives them something they lacked and wanted."
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Fundamentally, it's not all that different from the way people behave away from their computers, he said. People often suggest restaurants to each other, partly because they want friends to enjoy good meals, but also because they receive gratitude for the recommendation, and want to keep the restaurants in business.

Similarly, when people speak in person, they'll often ask each other if they've watched particular television shows or seen certain Web sites, which happens on Twitter all the time, said Graham Jones, a psychologist and consultant who specializes in the way people use the Internet, in an e-mail.

Online interactions play into "ancient proclivities," such as the desires to connect with others and pass along gossip, Christakis said.

Retweeting may resemble the phenomenon of forwarding stories, links, or received messages to everyone on your e-mail address list, said Richard Sherman, professor emeritus of psychology at Miami University in Oxford, Ohio. Like retweeting, there is the intimacy of "psst -- here's something you MUST see" mixed with the impersonal nature of mass communication, he said.

Motivations behind retweeting include info, ego, identity and amusement, said B.J. Fogg, founder of the Stanford Persuasive Technology Lab, who researches how computers change people's thoughts and behaviors, in an e-mail. By retweeting, people seek to inform others, make themselves look smart and well-connected, express who they are and what they believe, and entertain others, he said. These are the same reasons why people clip articles and post bumper stickers, said Fogg, who is also co-editor of "The Psychology of Facebook."

"If you retweet [something] to everyone on your list, you might or might not think that everyone in your list needs to know this information, but you might send it along to show, 'hey, look what I know,' " Christakis said.

Retweeting also promotes reciprocity, experts said. The more you retweet someone else, the more likely they will be to reference you also. People also believe retweeting will help them get more followers or more attention to their own Twitter feeds, Jones said.

Of course, retweets don't always make sense, and the constant stream of them can get annoying, users say.

Still, Taylor, who has accumulated more than 5,000 followers and is disconnected from Twitter only while sleeping, appreciates the "viral" aspect of retweeting.

"The coolest thing about retweeting is that, if you say anything that might be valuable, it spreads like wildfire," she said.


Tips for Retweeting
1. Begin with the letters RT. Don't waste valuable characters (you've only got 140) with preambles such as "Retweet."

2. Give credit to the source of the tweet by using @author, where "author" is the Twitter username of the person you are referencing. Sometimes there will be multiple names attached because it's been passed along so many times; make sure you are keeping the original source if you trim the chain of users.

3. When linking to something, shorten the URL you are referencing through a tool such as http://ow.ly or http://is.gd.

4. Use the remaining characters to explain the point of view or the link in the original tweet, preserving the spirit of what the source said.

5. Think twice before retweeting sensitive material or information that may be untrue. You don't want to embarrass people or spread lies.

6. Think about whether what you retweet will have relevance to any of your followers before posting. And avoid spam -- it's all over the Web.

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:47 am
by DeadPoolX
So... what exactly am I reading here? Someone using Twitter and YouTube, both examples of moronic Internet media? :P

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:09 am
by JasefWisener
DeadPoolX wrote:So... what exactly am I reading here? Someone using Twitter and YouTube, both examples of moronic Internet media? :P
Just now saw this thread while going through old posts.

I have a Twitter. I used it for some friends for a few weeks, then got bored with it. The only reason that I use it now is to keep up with specific things. For example, I'm following The Leaky Cauldron, the biggest Harry Potter news site on the Internet. Every time they post a news article, my Firefox add-on tells me and gives a link in case I want to read it. It has good uses in that manner, I believe.

I don't really find YouTube that moronic, though...

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:58 am
by DeadPoolX
JasefWisener wrote:I don't really find YouTube that moronic, though...
Well, I guess the reason I think YouTube can be moronic is due to the idiots on there. So many love playing the "RickRoll" prank (or something similar).

Even worse is when someone posts a clip of a game, TV show or movie and then ADDS THEIR OWN MUSIC to it! WHY!? Who the hell really thinks that the Normandy Beach scene in Saving Private Ryan should be accompanied by a Britney Spears song?

If I want to see a video of a game, TV show or movie, I expect the original goddamn audio. If I want to see some stupid music video, I'll look for it. Hell, I'll make it myself.

I know some people might say, "They're not posting it for you. They're doing it for themselves."

You know what? That's bullshit and I'll tell you why: if they only did it for their own enjoyment, they wouldn't have uploaded it to YouTube.

The entire purpose of YouTube is to share your work with others. That automatically assumes there must be other people who're actually interested in viewing whatever it is you upload. Therefore, you're not doing it for yourself (or at least, only you) but for others. Once again, if you were doing it for yourself -- and didn't care about anyone else seeing it -- you'd keep your creation on your hard drive (where it probably belongs).

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:18 am
by JasefWisener
I kind of agree, but I think it works in some situations. Similar interests, and all that.

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:42 pm
by DeadPoolX
JasefWisener wrote:I kind of agree, but I think it works in some situations. Similar interests, and all that.
Yeah, that's true. It's still more fun to rant and complain (like I just did). :D

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:10 pm
by Tawmis
DeadPoolX wrote: Even worse is when someone posts a clip of a game, TV show or movie and then ADDS THEIR OWN MUSIC to it! WHY!? Who the hell really thinks that the Normandy Beach scene in Saving Private Ryan should be accompanied by a Britney Spears song?

If I want to see a video of a game, TV show or movie, I expect the original goddamn audio. If I want to see some stupid music video, I'll look for it. Hell, I'll make it myself.

I know some people might say, "They're not posting it for you. They're doing it for themselves."

You know what? That's bullshit and I'll tell you why: if they only did it for their own enjoyment, they wouldn't have uploaded it to YouTube.
:lol: This post is for me isn't it? Tell me it is! Because the very person you're complaining about is me!

So here's my take. I do that - what you're complaining about. I did it with THE CROW and I did it with PIRATES also. I took scenes, cut, spliced, diced them - and put them to various music. For example, I did THE CROW with the music from EVANESSENCE "Bring Me Back To Life"... Why? Because it's a fantastic way to learn how to do editing. How to cut a video to match the emotion of the song. I love doing that kind of stuff. As soon as I saw the movie PS: I LOVE YOU, I knew I was going to take specific scenes and cut it to a song from ANTHRAX called "Bare". It just fit to me.

So then why upload it? Well, because I spend hours cutting this together. Someone else out there might appreciate the hard work that went into making this piece that took my time and passion.

And when my CROW video had over 200,000 views with about 10 pages of comments, most of them praises - and my PIRATES video had over 800,000 views with an enormous amount of compliments/pages... Why not upload it?

(Unfortunately this is probably what led to my original account being banned - by making these videos and using movie scenes and music that I have no permission to be uploading).
DeadPoolX wrote: The entire purpose of YouTube is to share your work with others. That automatically assumes there must be other people who're actually interested in viewing whatever it is you upload. Therefore, you're not doing it for yourself (or at least, only you) but for others. Once again, if you were doing it for yourself -- and didn't care about anyone else seeing it -- you'd keep your creation on your hard drive (where it probably belongs).
I do these videos for myself, yes. But see above, especially in terms of the success of my CROW and PIRATES video - which I might add - you can see where the hits are coming from - and I discovered a ton of MySpace pages embedding my videos in their profiles. That's a pretty cool feeling.

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:12 pm
by Tawmis
Oh - and I began twittering too. :)

Just to throw that log on the fire.

Figured my first one would be something mention worthy - so it was about me interviewing and making it into a Voice Acting Class which I am very excited about.

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:33 pm
by JasefWisener
What's your twitter name, Tawmis?

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:35 pm
by Tawmis
JasefWisener wrote:What's your twitter name, Tawmis?
Really? You need to ask that? :D

Re: I don't understand Twitter

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:20 pm
by JasefWisener
Tawmis wrote:
JasefWisener wrote:What's your twitter name, Tawmis?
Really? You need to ask that? :D
I think I just asked one of my stupidest questions ever.

;)