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Hmm ... very nice. A green dragon in a lake of what looks like either acid or poison. (And the warrior - with shield and spear - looks like he's sinking into it).

How old is this?

Rath Darkblade wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 3:47 am Hmm ... very nice. A green dragon in a lake of what looks like either acid or poison. (And the warrior - with shield and spear - looks like he's sinking into it).
How old is this?

This is first edition stuff. I found a high resolution scan of the original box and cropped it to wallpaper (1920x1080, my current resolution).

Here it is as the original box set.

Huh. OK, no wonder I'd never seen that - it says 1981. At that time, I wasn't even in primary school yet, never mind playing D&D!

The earliest D&D artwork I remember is this:



I still have some supplementary AD&D 2nd Ed books on my bookshelf: "Of Ships and the Sea", "Sages and Specialists", "Arms and Equipment Guide", "The Complete Book of Villains". I consult them sometimes for story ideas.

Trying to catch up on my D&D Game Session Notes Again! (Got behind again because I've been play Sierra games!)

So this is from the "Work Game" - where they'd arrived in Redstone and a mysterious Carnival shows up at midnight.
Last session the players discovered there seemed to be an enhancement charm over the Carnival and it was difficult to leave.
Now it's the following day, and they've captured the attention of the carnival ring leader....


http://tawmis.com/kneurth/adventure-not ... nturers-49

Heh. Apparently, Steam has now published a whole bunch of games based on ye olde Fighting Fantasy game-books.

Not sure if you played them when you were a kid; I certainly did (they helped me, first with learning English, and then with expanding my vocabulary). They were fun back then.

They do come across as a sort of "D&D-light" -- but extremely light. All the same, they might be fun for an hour or two ...

Rath Darkblade wrote: ↑Mon Sep 13, 2021 8:59 am Heh. Apparently, Steam has now published a whole bunch of games based on ye olde Fighting Fantasy game-books.
Not sure if you played them when you were a kid; I certainly did (they helped me, first with learning English, and then with expanding my vocabulary). They were fun back then.
They do come across as a sort of "D&D-light" -- but extremely light. All the same, they might be fun for an hour or two ...

Can't say I played those.

No? Hmm. Fighting Fantasy is a very, very basic roleplaying game. It has just a few stats, and combat is simply a matter of rolling two D6s, adding them to your SKILL score and the enemy's SKILL score, and comparing. If you win, the enemy loses 2 STAMINA points; if you lose, you lose 2 STAMINA points. Then on it goes, until someone is down to 0 (dead).

I think Fighting Fantasy was released in the UK and was big in the UK and Europe, especially in the 80s and 90s. In 1996, Arcane magazine ranked it 47th in a reader poll of "the 50 most popular roleplaying games of all time". The magazine's editor explained: "It's fun, quick and easy, which explains its popularity."

The illustrations are always fun, but the stories are variable. Sometimes they are a very simple good-vs-evil story; sometimes they're more involved than that. They were initially published in DRAGON magazine in the 80s before becoming game-books (basically "Choose Your Own Adventure", but with dice).

Try one or two. You might like them.

Hey everyone! If anyone is interested, Chaosium (the publisher of Call of Cthulhu, Runequest, and more) is going to be doing an actual play charity livestream of Call of Cthulhu tomorrow at 9pm ET for ZERO Cancer (zerocancer.org) on their Twitch page (twitch.tv/chaosiuminc)! There’s a ton of great talent, and it’ll be a good time to raise money for an awesome cause! Donations also directly affect the gameplay!

Next D&D Version in 2024 - this has a summary of what they talked about.
It's all 5e compatible (so no idea if they're going to call it 5.5 or 6th edition or something else entirely).
https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-fut ... 24.682891/

If there are no revolvers and arquebuses (a la Pillars of Eternity), I ain't going.

Just wondering: D&D is exploring the multiverse? Does that mean travelling to other planes? But I thought we did that - Elemental Plane of Air, Elemental Plane of Fire, etc. (in Forgotten Realms)? Where are we going next - to the 20th century, maybe?

"Halt! You're under arrest for carrying swords in public!"
"Leave them alone, officer. Don't you recognise cosplay when you see it?"

... and so on.

Rath Darkblade wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:08 pm Just wondering: D&D is exploring the multiverse? Does that mean travelling to other planes? But I thought we did that - Elemental Plane of Air, Elemental Plane of Fire, etc. (in Forgotten Realms)? Where are we going next - to the 20th century, maybe?

Multiverse is the same idea Marvel has used for eons.

It explains how people (as players, for example) - can all be playing the same module (say, Lost Mines of Phandalen) - so I DM one group, you're in Australia DMing another group, Jasef is in - where ever he lives DMing another group - and all of them, despite being the same module - are vastly different characters, and thus the experience for everyone is vastly different. (I use Lost Mines of Phandalen because I've played in that module probably six times now, with different groups and it's ALWAYS different).

So the idea is - no one's way is the "prime" one. Only D&D can write official content. So say there is some demi-god you need to beat in a module, and same idea - all these groups of people, all playing the same thing, are going to come up with different endings. Now, WotC (Wizards of the Coast) writes a sequel where the Demi-God rises again - even though, say in yours, you guys disintegrated and spread his ashes across ten different planes. No way he's coming back. But WotC releases a follow up where that's just what happens. The WotC is the "prime" plane. All the other games people play - they're multiverses. So the same events happening, with different results.

And D&D has more than the Plane of Air, Fire, Earth, and Water. Hell has 666 planes. There's the Astral Plane, Ethereal Plane, and... so many others, I can't even keep track of them.

Most campaigns happen in the "Prime Material Plane."

Fair enough. Yes, I didn't think D&D has just air, fire, earth and water. That'd leave no room to grow.

As for the multiverse ... Marvel used it for eons, yes. But I didn't think D&D had. Aren't they two different genres - Marvel is science-fiction (superheroes etc.), and D&D is fantasy?

D&D has heaps of planes. If you can do a campaign in the Plane of Air, would that be an airplane? (Sorry)

Rath Darkblade wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:08 pm Fair enough. Yes, I didn't think D&D has just air, fire, earth and water. That'd leave no room to grow.
As for the multiverse ... Marvel used it for eons, yes. But I didn't think D&D had. Aren't they two different genres - Marvel is science-fiction (superheroes etc.), and D&D is fantasy?

I think D&D started referencing a "multiverse" in 2nd edition (in one of their later books).
Because they started using the Illithid (Mind Flayers) and their flying ships that go through dimensions.
And eventually led to the release of "Spelljammer."

Rath Darkblade wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:08 pm D&D has heaps of planes. If you can do a campaign in the Plane of Air, would that be an airplane? (Sorry)

Zing.

Hmm. Since there are so many planes in D&D, and people create their own home-brewed rules all the time, would it be possible to create utterly silly planes? For instance, the Plane of Jello-O, or the Plane of Plane (i.e. the geometric concept)? Or, maybe, the Plane of French Fries.

As long as they are internally logical and offer dangerous travel (and monsters), why not? For instance, you must be careful on the Plane of French Fries because of the constant hot temperatures, and if you tread on a soft piece of potato and fall into the pile ... it's game over, you drown in boiling oil. It'd probably be safer for adventurers if they could fly or levitate, so they don't have to risk stepping on hot potatoes. Perhaps there could be Potato Elementals around, or Fried Fish, or Hamburglars (i.e. rogues who steal your money, and if you catch them, they throw inferior food in the party's face and make their getaway while the party is "blinded").


Weird or not, I'm sure someone tried it out in D&D (and probably failed)? *shrug*

Rath Darkblade wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 2:12 am Hmm. Since there are so many planes in D&D, and people create their own home-brewed rules all the time, would it be possible to create utterly silly planes? For instance, the Plane of Jello-O, or the Plane of Plane (i.e. the geometric concept)? Or, maybe, the Plane of French Fries.

For the geometry plane, sure! And probably populated logically by these actual D&D creatures known as Modron.
As for French Fries, why not - base it off of Wendy's Feast of Legends.