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Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:25 pm
by Tawmis
We were discussing how underated EcoQuest was - but I believe Torin's Passage is another game that is so ridiculously underated. I could have easily seen Torin's Passage turned into a 2 hour cartoon movie.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:54 pm
by AndreaDraco
I never played it, mainly because I can't find a copy of the game. I've read only the review at Adventure Gamers and it didn't receive a very good score. Can you further your opinion? It's really worth to find out and play?

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:01 pm
by Datadog
I loved Torin's Passage. His agility makes it so easy to travel around the game area, and Boogle was a great sidekick. I think I've accepted it's style as one of my biggest inspirations.

I just didn't like how short and easy it was and how they had to wrap up really fast at the end. Not to mention listening to Al Lowe writing jokes for a family game is like listening to Bob Saget on "America's Funniest Home Videos." A lot of the humor is one pun after another and very groan-inducing, but it's all in good fun.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:16 pm
by Tawmis
AndreaDraco83 wrote:I never played it, mainly because I can't find a copy of the game. I've read only the review at Adventure Gamers and it didn't receive a very good score. Can you further your opinion? It's really worth to find out and play?
I would say, "Yes, it's worth it." But lets see what others also say! Don't got by my opinion alone.

First, the main character Torin. I think he's very defined. His quest to "save his parents" (don't want to spoil it - but you will see in the intro what I mean) is a very, very honorable one - and it's the main purpose of this quest he goes on. His interactions with all the other characters are very, very consistent.

Then there's his pet - or sidekick - Boogle. Hilariously funny. Has a very unique... skill... that you will need to solve some of the puzzles.

The side characters - like the worms - and the guy who lets you into The Lands Below - amazingly entertaining and amusing.

And the villian(s) are both very well defined with occassional cut scenes to them for more development throughout the game.

The puzzles are fun - and not insanely difficult.

Al Lowe proves that he can do more than LSL humor. And does it with amazing character, depth and story.

Torin's Passage would get a 10/10 from me if I were to rank it.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:30 pm
by AndreaDraco
Tawmis wrote: Torin's Passage would get a 10/10 from me if I were to rank it.
:o

10 out of 10 is an amazing score!

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:41 pm
by Tawmis
AndreaDraco83 wrote:
Tawmis wrote: Torin's Passage would get a 10/10 from me if I were to rank it.
:o
10 out of 10 is an amazing score!
And one that I think it deserves. :) I'd rank KQ6 with a 10/10 also.

Leisure Suit Larry 2 (which is my favorite LSL game) is probably a 8/10. GK1 is probably an 8/10 (or 9/10 - so close to perfection, for me). KQ4 (my favorite) would be a 7/10.

If that gives you an idea of where I stand with Torin's Passage.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:45 pm
by Collector
I would hardily recommend the game, too. I have run across the game a number of times. It doesn't seem to be that hard of a game to find. If I see a copy, I'll let you know.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:47 pm
by Tawmis
Although I just thought of something - you didn't care for KQ7... so you may not care for Torin's Passage...

:cry:

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:49 pm
by Collector
I didn't like the cartoony style of KQ 7, either, but that was more because it seem to be out of keeping with the series. Cartoony styles fit Al Lowe games.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 4:47 pm
by Akril
I love this game. The "nested worlds" idea is a neat one, and adds a lot of variety to the "gamescape" -- not only do the lands differ, but so do the creatures and the people. Apparently Al was planning on creating multiple sequels to this game following Torin as he grows older. It's a shame this didn't come to pass.

I've actually played this game so often that I've almost worn out the CD -- fortunately I've got a backup.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:16 pm
by Collector
Akril wrote:It's a shame this didn't come to pass.
But then it is a shame that a number of Sierra games didn't come to pass, including the continuation of the series games. Even MoE was going to be a very different game than the one it ended up being, before Sierra was sold the first time. Roberta was going to remain with the company but had lost control of the game, anyway.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:56 am
by Fender_178
I wonder what kind of game MOE was going to be if Roberta had control of the game? Also I heard that Al Lowe wanted to make a 2nd Torrin's Passage game but it never happened. I liked the game its a fun game.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:39 pm
by JasefWisener
Torin's Passage was originally going to be an entire series of games, but was canned after the first one. I emailed Al about it once, and he gave a good explanation of why, but I can't remember. Maybe I'll try to find that email somewhere...

On a side-note, Al Lowe is a great guy and he returns just about every email someone sends him. If you loved any or all of his games, I recommend emailing him and telling him. It makes him happy and it's pretty amazing to be in contact with someone like him.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:40 pm
by Tawmis
I agree with JWise. When I hunted down all the Sierra peeps online - Al Lowe, Scott Murphy, Ken & Roberta Williams, etc etc - it was Al Lowe who was sincerely the kindest person in the world.

Scott never wrote me back. Ken wrote me back, but pretty much said he was super busy. Christy Marx wrote me back (though I'd love to write her again about her work on ElfQuest now). Mark Crowe wrote me a short email back. There were a mess of others - but yeah - Al Lowe has responded to about every email I sent him (from sending him the same Claim To Fame thread, to asking about LSL, Torin's Passage, even the ill fated Sam Suede which I was really looking forward to.

Re: Torin's Passage.

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:42 pm
by JasefWisener
Tawmis wrote: even the ill fated Sam Suede which I was really looking forward to.
*sigh* I was looking forward to Sam Suede too.