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For some reason, when I went to play QFG3 after I installed it from this website just like I did for 1 and 2, it won't start up. I'll click on the game and the window will pop up but a second later the window just shuts itself down. Am i doing something wrong?

Run the diagnostic tool from the game's folder in the start menu and attach the results here.

=================================== System Info ===================================

Windows 7 Ultimate (6.1.7600.2) 64-Bit, English
Service Pack : None
Account type : Administrator
UAC status : On

CPU : AMD Processor model unknown, ~3099 Mhz
Memory : 4096MB RAM
Graphics Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GSO w/ 256MB of memory.
Screen Resolution : 1024 x 768, 32 bit color
DirectX Version : DirectX 9.0c, DirectX 11
CD-ROM Drive(s) : D:\


==================================== Game Info ====================================

Game = Quest for Glory 3
Game Version = 1.1
Game Path = C:\Qfg\QG3E\QfG3
Installer Version = 2.0
Start Menu Directory = Sierra\Quest for Glory III- Wages of War
UninstallString = C:\Qfg\QG3E\QfG3\uninst.exe


============================= Game Configuration File =============================

RESOURCE.CFG

videoDrv = VGA320.DRV
soundDrv = GENMIDI.DRV
audioDrv = AUDDISNY.DRV
joyDrv = NO
kbdDrv = IBMKBD.DRV
mouseDrv = STDMOUSE.DRV
memoryDrv = ARM.DRV
minHunk = 223k


=================================== DOSBox Info ===================================

DOSBox Path = C:\Program Files (x86)\DOSBox\DOSBox.exe
DOSBox version 0.74

Your version of DOSBox is up to date.


=================================== dosbox.conf ===================================

[sdl]
output= overlay
fullresolution= 0x0
windowresolution= original
fullscreen= true
autolock= false

[DOSBox]
machine= svga_s3
captures= C:\Users\Jaws\AppData\Local\DOSBox\capture

[render]
aspect= true
scaler= normal2x

[cpu]
core= normal
cycles= 10000

[autoexec]
cls
@ECHO OFF
mount c "C:\Qfg\QG3E\QfG3"
c:
cd \
SIERRA.EXE
exit


================================= Game Files List =================================

100.HEP
100.SCR
200.HEP
200.SCR
250.HEP
250.SCR
280.HEP
280.SCR
33.HEP
33.SCR
330.HEP
330.SCR
350.HEP
350.SCR
380.HEP
380.SCR
400.HEP
400.SCR
440.HEP
440.SCR
450.HEP
450.SCR
460.HEP
460.SCR
470.HEP
470.SCR
471.HEP
471.SCR
51.HEP
51.SCR
550.HEP
550.SCR
620.HEP
620.SCR
630.HEP
630.SCR
650.HEP
650.SCR
65535.MAP
770.HEP
770.SCR
830.HEP
830.SCR
840.HEP
840.SCR
850.HEP
850.SCR
851.HEP
851.SCR
852.HEP
852.SCR
853.HEP
853.SCR
854.HEP
854.SCR
855.HEP
855.SCR
860.HEP
860.SCR
ADL.DRV
AUDBLAST.DRV
AUDDISNY.DRV
AUDNONE.DRV
AUDPRO.DRV
AUDPS1.DRV
AUDTANDY.DRV
AUDTHUND.DRV
Conf.exe
DiagnosticTool.exe
dosbox.conf
EGA640.DRV
GAMEDAT.SHP
GENMIDI.DRV
IBMKBD.DRV
IBMPS1.DRV
INSTALL.EXE
INSTALL.HLP
INSTALL.SCR
INSTALL.TXT
Installer License.txt
INTERP.ERR
JOYSTICK.DRV
MESSAGE.MAP
MT32.DRV
New Installer README.txt
PAUL.SAV
QfG3.ico
QfG3ForDOSBox.exe
QfG3HR.ico
QfG3_NRS.zip
QfG3_NRS_README.TXT
Quest for Glory III- Wages of War.lnk
README.TXT
RESOURCE.CFG
RESOURCE.MAP
RESOURCE.MSG
SIERRA.EXE
STD.DRV
TANDY3V.DRV
uninst.exe
VERSION
VGA320.DRV
VGA320BW.DRV

You are missing two critical files. These are the files with all of the game data. Also, i noticed that the installer is in the same folder. Did you install into the same folder that the install files were in? Post a list of the contents of the floppy disks.

Here is the list you requested. I just took the folder from my Quest for Glory Anthology Cd named QfG3E and put it in with the rest of the QfGs. I then saved the installer from this page in that same folder. Should I move it into the new folder once the game is installed? If I am missing files is there any way I can get them from you or can you tell me where on the CD I could find them? Oh and I put the file type in parenthesis for the ones that share the same name with another file. If you need anything else let me know (this is a bummer, QFG3 is my favorite of the series)

Files from QfG3E copied from CD:

28.HEP
28
29.HEP
32.HEP
32
51.HEP
51
54.HEP
54 (File Type:outlook item)
54 (File Type: Screen Saver)
140.HEP
140
280.HEP
280
285
420.HEP
420
450.HEP
450
460.HEP
460
470.HEP
470
480.HEP
480
620.HEP
620
640.HEP
640
650.HEP
650
700.HEP
700
740.HEP
740
780.HEP
780
852.HEP
852
65535.MAP
ADL.DRV
AUDBLAST.DRV
AUDDISNY.DRV
AUDNONE.DRV
AUDPRO.DRV
AUDPS1.DRV
AUDTANDY.DRV
AUDTHUND.DRV
EGA640.DRV
GENMIDI.DRV
IBMKPD.DRV
IBMPS1.DRV
INSTALL (FILETYPE: APPLICATION)
INSTALL (File Type :Help File)
INSTALL (File Type: Screen Saver)
INSTALL (File Type: Text Document)
INTERP.ERR
JOYSTICK.DRV
MESSAGE.MAP
MT32.DRV
PKCOMP
PROAUDIO.DRV
QG3E (Batch File)
README
README.OLD
RESOURCE.000
RESOURCE.AUD
RESOURCE.CFG
RESOURCE.MAP
RESOURCE
SIERRA
STD.DRV
TANDY3V.DRV
VERSION
VGA320.DRV
VGA320BW.DRV

-Hope this helps. Thank you for your time!

That is not from the original install disks. The installer only work with the original disks.

You don't have an installer for the QFG Anthology yet?

Yes, but it will only work for the Anthology CD, not a standalone copy of QfG3.

Ah.

I'm not going to accuse anyone, but I am not going to build in support for "abandonwarez" copies of the games. Sometimes the installers will work with them, often they do not. Besides, it is just not that hard to find most of the Sierra games for a reasonable price, especially with GOG and Steam.

It's a great way to enforce legal acquisition . Props.

It's not even just that. My main problem with them is the support nightmare. Abandonware usually comes from old warez releases from when the games were new. They are usually cracked, hacked, ripped or otherwise modified in someway, often with unpredictable results. Qbix can testify how often someone has reported a problem with a game on VOGONS and several of the regulars respond that the game works for them straight off with no special trouble. More often than not it turns out that problem only exists with an abandonware version. In fact, there are a couple of bugs that immediately identify a game as abandonware; the buyer never showing up in Gold Rush! and KQ4AGI crashing when swimming to Genesta's island.

That said, I have nothing against the concept of abandonware, but there is still the legal issue. Even the games of companies that no longer exist in most cases still belong to someone. And the most important thing to us all is when a game is still being sold new, it is not "abandonware". We need to encourage everyone that is seeking these games to buy them. The more that buy them, the more that the game producers are convinced that there is a market for them. This leads to more releases on the likes of GOG and if we are lucky, new adventure games like the revival of some of the LucasArts titles.

Good words.

Just to play devil's advocate...

What if someone does have the stand alone version of QfG (or whatever) and doesn't have the anthology/collection stuff? Granted, it is cheap - but in today's economy - going out and paying 20 bucks that could be better spent going into a gas tank... Well, some folks won't be so happy to go and purchase a collection version.

Case and point, me. I have all of the single QFG games, but never got the collection. Mostly because I never found it. They released KQ, LSL and PQ collections constantly - they were easy to find in their various forums. But I think they only released the QFG collection once - and that was it - and for whatever reason, I missed that boat.

Not saying, "Develop an installer for me!" obviously... But just saying, there are those of us, whether it's because we lost our job, we have house payments, car payments, regular bills to pay, or a combo of any and all (like me!) - that purchasing 20+ year old games is currently out of the question for me.

Well, there are individual installers for each. Again, the main reasons that I am not supporting abandonware versions is more because of the technical aspect. As I have said before, when the installers fail it is usually because of user error or another version that is different enough to break the installer. I have been incorporating routines in the NSIS scripts to minimize the likelihood of user error and have been getting fewer of these kinds of support requests because of it. If an installer doesn't work because of an unaccounted for version, if it is an official version and I can get enough information, I add support for it. I am not going to burden myself with trying to add support for God knows how many abandonware/warez versions that might be out there for any given game.