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King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:26 pm
by comradesean
I recently purchased this version and the disk's labels are confusing. There's two of them and one is labeled as Disk 1 and lists Side A and Side B. When I try reading this disk, it appears to only have data on one side. The second disk has no identification on it besides King's Quest. Can someone explain this to me? Is it actually just two single sided disks or is there actually data on the second side of disk 1?
Re: King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:43 pm
by Collector
Might be worth shooting a PM to NRS on VOGONS.
Re: King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:40 pm
by comradesean
Okay, it actually was a flippy disk. Turns out DTC was ignoring the second side when I set it to Apple Dos 3.3+ and I had to manually set it to read "Both Sides".
It's now read perfectly, but I'm having difficulty converting it to a readable format to run in AppleWin. I downloaded someone elses dump in nib files and then converted my .dsk to nib and did a hex compare and there seems to be some sort of white space either missing or made too large in my dump. Maybe I'm converting wrong? Will update as soon as I get it to execute.
Re: King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:13 pm
by Collector
Can you extract the files and run it in ScummVM?
Re: King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:13 pm
by comradesean
Collector wrote:Can you extract the files and run it in ScummVM?
I'm not sure. I'm not familiar enough with the apple o/s just yet but it's possible this isn't a booter in the pc sense.
I did read something about some sort of maintenance disk that'd allow this so I'll check that.
I believe I'm hitting a form of copy protection, but it's hard to find info. Kryoflux support for apple is even worse than PC. There's something about emulators needing track order different than the physical disk, but no real guides or even posts of people successfully emulating it.
Re: King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:42 pm
by Collector
You can try something like FishWings or CiderPress if you can get the streams converted to standard image like DSK or NIB. Once you have the contents extracted you should be able to just point ScummVM to the folder you have them.
Re: King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:38 pm
by comradesean
CiderPress looks like it can't determine the filesystem. Not even with the working .nibs I downloaded. I guess that means it's the same as the PC version
I completely forgot to mention this part and even if I didn't mention this in my other post you've probably figured it out by now, but this is the gray box 1984 release on flippy disk.
Re: King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:19 am
by Collector
I have not been able to get a good image of my gray box either.
Re: King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:15 pm
by comradesean
It has to have something to do with the conversion. The img/dsk created looks like it's maintaining the track order which is "oddly numbered" so I'm still assuming copy protection. When I convert to a .nib it reorders everything in numerical order which is wrong even when compared to the working .nibs I downloaded.
I've tried dsk2nib and every conversion option under ciderpress so I'm not really sure what to do at this point.
Re: King's Quest (Apple Version)
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 9:24 pm
by Collector
Support for other platforms seem to be a bit wanting because of the SPS obsession with Amiga.