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KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:12 pm
by MusicallyInspired
I noticed on this section of the website
http://www.sierrahelp.com/Cheats/KQ3Cheat.html it mentions that the version that comes with the KQ collection has most of the debug commands disabled. This isn't correct. For the 3-disc KQ Collectors Series package "rats ass" enables the debug and all the cheats work including "gimme gimme". (game version is 2.14, incidentally) The 1994 KQ collection also has the same version of the game and it works there as well, a source of mine says. Also just tried the Steam collection (both standard and legacy - which is the 2006 collection - launchers) and they both use V2.14 as well, and all commands work.
Also, the page is missing a ton of commands that all should work like "give object" (which gives inventory items).
Re: KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:56 pm
by Tawmis
MusicallyInspired wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:12 pm
I noticed on this section of the website
http://www.sierrahelp.com/Cheats/KQ3Cheat.html it mentions that the version that comes with the KQ collection has most of the debug commands disabled. This isn't correct. For the 3-disc KQ Collectors Series package "rats ass" enables the debug and all the cheats work including "gimme gimme". (game version is 2.14, incidentally) The 1994 KQ collection also has the same version of the game and it works there as well, a source of mine says. Also just tried the Steam collection (both standard and legacy - which is the 2006 collection - launchers) and they both use V2.14 as well, and all commands work.
Also, the page is missing a ton of commands that all should work like "give object" (which gives inventory items).
Collector must have fixed the first part about rats ass and such, because I don't see where it mentions specific versions not working. (I just tested KQ3, v2.14 and can verify that "rats ass" and "gimme gimme" work... though gimme gimme kills you instantly if the wizard hasn't taken off to go to sleep)
Re: KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:08 pm
by Collector
I haven't paid attention to that page for very long time. The Debug Modes articles on the Wikis give more info. I'll see about updating the regular page when I get some time.
Re: KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:10 am
by MusicallyInspired
Tawmis wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:56 pm
Collector must have fixed the first part about rats ass and such, because I don't see where it mentions specific versions not working. (I just tested KQ3, v2.14 and can verify that "rats ass" and "gimme gimme" work... though gimme gimme kills you instantly if the wizard hasn't taken off to go to sleep)
Halfway down the page just after the first table of debug codes (of which there are many missing) it says this:
NOTE: the version that comes with the KQ collection, then only the TP and SHOW VAR cheat works.
Collector wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:08 pm
I haven't paid attention to that page for very long time. The Debug Modes articles on the Wikis give more info. I'll see about updating the regular page when I get some time.
Yeah, just thought I'd point it out is all. No biggie.
Re: KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 12:32 pm
by Tawmis
Collector wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:08 pm
I haven't paid attention to that page for very long time. The Debug Modes articles on the Wikis give more info. I'll see about updating the regular page when I get some time.
Either that, or just put a link on the page that says, "See the KQ3 Wiki for more." And link to the Wiki.
So you're not updating two places.
Re: KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 1:11 pm
by MusicallyInspired
Or just redirect straight to the wiki?
Re: KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:49 pm
by Collector
I made a list of object numbers for the "GET OBJECT" debug command. May do the same with room numbers for the "TP" command.
Re: KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:43 am
by Rath Darkblade
Wait, wait, wait.... you can
cheat in KQ3?
And all this time I was playing it honestly and getting killed by Mahna-mahna-man...
Re: KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 9:16 am
by MusicallyInspired
Technically, you can cheat in almost any Sierra game. (probably half of them, actually. You can't in the VGA games, but anything EGA certainly)
Re: KQ3 Cheats section error
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 12:11 pm
by Tawmis
Rath Darkblade wrote: ↑Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:43 am
Wait, wait, wait.... you can
cheat in KQ3?
And all this time I was playing it honestly and getting killed by Mahna-mahna-man...
As MI said, almost all of the EGA games have a "debug" mode that allow you to do a wide assortment of commands... and one of them is permanently putting Mahananahyaanahahananahan to "sleep."