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Reposted patches --- delete them!
Sent: 2019-2-04 @ 22:19
From: NewRisingSun
To: arablizzard2413

Apparently I did not make myself clear the first time: I did not give you permission to repost the patches that I deleted. Delete these two posts of yours now:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=44537&p=732350#p732163
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=41384&p=732215#p732215

The "delete" button is on the top right of the post when you are logged it. If you cannot delete it because some other doofuses have already responded, you can still "edit" it to remove the content.

Do that now, immediately, or I need ask the board moderators to have you banned (and have the posts forcibly deleted).

Aroenai wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:34 am That was me, and this lovely message was waiting for me after work.

Tawmis wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:45 pm

Aroenai wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:34 am That was me, and this lovely message was waiting for me after work.

That's a charming fellow.

MusicallyInspired wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:29 am Yeah, I love NRS's work and he's been an asset to the community. I truly respect his past efforts. but he needs to grow up. He acts like a 2 year old. He first deleted his initial posts and kept his threads, but then when someone else replied to each thread with the missing information and links (because they didn't understand why it went missing), he ups and deletes both threads entirely. What a baby. He's always been extremely short and irritable with everyone. But this takes the cake. It's even more mystifying because everyone is on his side regarding ScummVM. But as soon as anyone brings it up he threatens to delete all his work. This time he actually did it.

For those not in the know, people kept bringing up the fact that ScummVM willfully chose not to support his patches and made them incompatible with ScummVM because they wrongfully claimed that his patches include scripts that remove copy protection when no such scripts exist (meanwhile, Monkey Island 2 intentionally disables copy protection because ScummVM can't tell whether the version of the game is floppy-based or CD-ROM based. So by their own standards their breaking their own rules that they're imposing on NRS's work). It's either total ignorance on how SCI games work or they're just that pretentious (it wouldn't be the first time *cough*undithering*cough*).

There's also the fiasco about the PQ2 demo. Every copy available seems to have corrupt graphic resources. Nobody seems to have a pure copy. But when someone suggested that the resource from the retail game (which are identical) be used to repair the demo ScummVM said they wouldn't host it because it took files from a retail version of a game. It's just silly pigheadedness. I understand that in the past they've had a leery ominous eye on them from legal parties for supporting copyrighted games and they've had to walk a tightrope carefully about these things but I think that mentality is severely out of date. LucasFilm/Arts lawyers may have breathed down their necks, but I don't see that happening for Sierra IPs. I don't even see it happening for LucasArts games anymore. They just seem to be an island of egos over there. There was also the time that they decided to step in and be the saviors of the AGI/SCI fangame community when Mega-Tokyo went down and start an AGI/SCI fangame subforum....even though the SCI Programming Community already existed and had been around for a while. I'm not going to label everyone over there and paint them with a broad brush, but sometimes I can't stand the place. This is partly, but not the only reason, why I prefer DOSBox over ScummVM for almost everything. Not least of which is that because ScummVM exists some of the original game files are no longer required and are therefore no longer bundled in many GOG game releases because they just use ScummVM (Gobliiins was the first victim of that fallout, and eventually Sierra games followed suit).

Anyway, from his actions, NRS seems to share many traits with ScummVM as it turns out. He's willing to punish the community for out of meaningless pettiness. It's very disappointing.

Semi-Happy Partygoer wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 4:21 pm It's so refreshing to find a community like the SHP where everyone is gracious, respectful, courteous and helpful. I was beginning to lose my passion for old gaming prior to discovering this site due to the hot bed of negativity consuming others. The internet can be such a toxic place; it's reassuring to know that not everywhere is.

notbobsmith wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:17 pm Had no idea about some of the issues with ScummVM. I know some people here didn't like it, but I didn't quite understand why. I made it my goal to try to get everything to work in a single version of DOSBox. I even got Windows 3.11 working so I could get the better art in KQ6. But there are a few games from GOG where it isn't an option. Riven (not even a DOS game). Shivers. Lighthouse. 7th Guest comes with ScummVM, but I did manage to find a work around to make it work in DOSBox. However, I thought the videos played more cleanly in ScummVM. Phantasmagoria also gave me audio problems in DOSBox. And I have the Hi-Res Adventures from the KQ Collection CD working without the need for AppleWin. So ScummVM is kind of unavoidable for some things. There's also ResidualVM for Myst 3.

Aroenai wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:34 am That was me, and this lovely message was waiting for me after work.

Reposted patches --- delete them!
Sent: 2019-2-04 @ 22:19
From: NewRisingSun
To: arablizzard2413

Apparently I did not make myself clear the first time: I did not give you permission to repost the patches that I deleted. Delete these two posts of yours now:

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=44537&p=732350#p732163
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=41384&p=732215#p732215

The "delete" button is on the top right of the post when you are logged it. If you cannot delete it because some other doofuses have already responded, you can still "edit" it to remove the content.

Do that now, immediately, or I need ask the board moderators to have you banned (and have the posts forcibly deleted).

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Collector wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 11:20 am The more mature SVM devs need to take charge and stop the negative aspects of their public interactions. Some new posters get upset with VOGONS over "abandonware" but this is usually just a referral to the abandonware sites for help, not the public shaming that SVM does.