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All right - I am on Day 5 of Gabriel Knight 1, to leave a message on Marie Laveau's grave...
And I have translated the two different message...
Now it says, "Gabriel translates them all, except for 3 letters..."
So I thought, I am going to put these symbols alphabetically, for ease of my sanity and spelling things out...
And quickly discovered, Gabe is missing more than "three" letters.
He's in fact missing, twice as many - he's missing 6 letters in total: M, Q, U, X, Y, and Z.
Now I had to restore to see how a certain something was spelled...
So I am pretty sure the "three" letters she mentions are indeed what's needed to spell the item in question...
Which makes me think I am on the right track (meaning: M, U, and Y are missing from what I need to spell).
That, and there's three "unknown" letters in Gabriel's translation... but because he's missing six letters, these could technically be Q, X, and Z.
Now being that three letters are missing - and the three "?" all look similar, it would almost feel like the three "?" are X, Y and Z because alphabetically, some look similar (A through G, all look similar themed, for example, as do N an O).

So that said, does it matter which ones you use for the letters M, U and Y to spell what's needed?

Because if it requires a specific "?" - it's not clear at all, unless I am missing something else?

Willing to take small hints, if needed. I've now idea how I figured this out in the past when I've played, if it was specific letters. I am willing to go with it doesn't matter, because unless I am missing something right now, that seems the logical choice... which is odd, for a game that's got so much detail to say "it doesn't matter which three you use."

I don't think so, it would make the puzzle invalid you need to spell sekey madoule after all, which has two of them. I think the game just treats them as a font.

BBP wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 5:55 am I don't think so, it would make the puzzle invalid you need to spell sekey madoule after all, which has two of them. I think the game just treats them as a font.

Yeah - figured out that it was "Sekey Madoule" - which is why I had to restore back to see how it was spelled. But since "M, U, Y" are three letters that are missing - all three, which are needed to spell SEKE_ _ADO_LE - It's not clear which of the unknown characters are which letter.

Ah, that's how I figured it out.
If you type the wrong "?" character - Gabriel will rub it out and you have to start over. So it's trial and error to guess the last three.

Assuming the three "?" are not randomized each game - here's the key for anyone interested.

Just checked the SCI docs and found that, unlike I thought earlier, the symbols are not a font. Unfortunately I cannot find the symbols in the views, but I'll have a better look.

You may have noticed that the P isn't in the first message, but it is in the second. Gabe could've translated all the other symbols as well if he had the time Maybe it was too hard with the P missing.

Thought - I need to update the GK1 companion with the easter egg

Views 95 and 96.

Yeah I had found the views of the full text, but not of the separate letters.

I have found them now, they're in view 310,v56, loops 2 and 3. There are 24 symbols in total. Chart's underway...

Here's the chart of the letters I found in order of appearance in view 310.

In the game files they're in alphabetical order - and there's one letter that wasn't used ingame tucked nicely between P and R.


(and while checking I found some placeholder art, which was some treat to see

There you are, Tawm. All fixed. And now?



(I love Harvey Korman's work. But everything about this movie is hilarious)