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Favorite of the Series?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 4:46 pm
by Tawmis
So if you had to pick a favorite from the Conquest series - which one would it be and why?
And do you have a least favorite? What makes it so?

Re: Favorite of the Series?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:53 pm
by Rath Darkblade
Conquest of the Longbow is my favourite ... because I beat it. :D But hey, the writing is brilliant, and there are four (four?) endings. (Depends on how well or badly you played). ;) But for the longest time, I couldn't beat it. I was always either stuck in the maze and Marian burned to death, or I couldn't win that stupid board game.

Conquests of Camelot is my least favourite by default, but I still like it. I just can't get past that %&@*ing Black Knight. :x

Re: Favorite of the Series?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:53 pm
by Tawmis
Rath Darkblade wrote: Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:53 pm Conquest of the Longbow is my favourite ... because I beat it. :D But hey, the writing is brilliant, and there are four (four?) endings. (Depends on how well or badly you played). ;) But for the longest time, I couldn't beat it. I was always either stuck in the maze and Marian burned to death, or I couldn't win that stupid board game.

Conquests of Camelot is my least favourite by default, but I still like it. I just can't get past that %&@*ing Black Knight. :x
Hah! We are flipped - I love Arthurian legends so I loved Camelot. Loved Longbow too, but it falls to second.

Re: Favorite of the Series?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:03 pm
by notbobsmith
Camelot. Both games are good, but I think Camelot was a little more challenging-in-a-good-way with the puzzles.

Re: Favorite of the Series?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:13 pm
by Rath Darkblade
So ... how do I get past that %&@*ing Black Knight? :x

(I could just leave Gawain, I suppose, but it wouldn't feel right. :( Plus, I would probably lose the game in the end if I did that) :(

Re: Favorite of the Series?

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:42 pm
by notbobsmith
Rath Darkblade wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:13 pm So ... how do I get past that %&@*ing Black Knight? :x

(I could just leave Gawain, I suppose, but it wouldn't feel right. :( Plus, I would probably lose the game in the end if I did that) :(
I think you can just abandon Gawain and lose some points, otherwise it's just practice. There is a technique found in some walkthroughs.

Re: Favorite of the Series?

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:43 pm
by DeadPoolX
notbobsmith wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:42 pm
Rath Darkblade wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:13 pm So ... how do I get past that %&@*ing Black Knight? :x

(I could just leave Gawain, I suppose, but it wouldn't feel right. :( Plus, I would probably lose the game in the end if I did that) :(
I think you can just abandon Gawain and lose some points, otherwise it's just practice. There is a technique found in some walkthroughs.
I don't think you can abandon any of your knights and still win at the end. Granted, I never tried it, but I was under the impression that if you left any of your knights behind the Holy Grail would judge you unworthy and kill you.

Re: Favorite of the Series?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:38 am
by Subbi
Conquests of the Longbow is arguably a better game. It has better art and music (partly thanks to the higher resolution and color option).
But where the game really shines is the dialog and how the game responds to whatever style you want to play. There are so many alternative solutions, that are all leading to either of the 4 endings, the game still responds with unique dialog to anything you try to do, even if it does not make sense.
And then there are all these death-message variations covered by a camp sequence. You'd think there are only a handful of them, but there are many many more for various situations and scenario's.

A speedrunner called One Short Eye made a documentary video on Longbow particulary zooming in on all the alternative solutions, dialog options and even went deeper into the strategy elements of the game and how poor choices in earlier battle situations have consequences on outcomes in later ones, especially the big robbery of the treasure. You can completely screw up in many different ways and still play the game to an ending....and the game keeps responding to you within that context no matter what you have done prior.



Longbow is really Sierra's hidden gem, lacking the popularity compared to more visible quests like KIng's Quest, but it's one of the best games they made. (together with the GK series, to my opinion)

Re: Favorite of the Series?

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 11:15 am
by Tawmis
Subbi wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:38 am Conquests of the Longbow is arguably a better game. It has better art and music (partly thanks to the higher resolution and color option).
But where the game really shines is the dialog and how the game responds to whatever style you want to play. There are so many alternative solutions, that are all leading to either of the 4 endings, the game still responds with unique dialog to anything you try to do, even if it does not make sense.
And then there are all these death-message variations covered by a camp sequence. You'd think there are only a handful of them, but there are many many more for various situations and scenario's.

Longbow is really Sierra's hidden gem, lacking the popularity compared to more visible quests like KIng's Quest, but it's one of the best games they made. (together with the GK series, to my opinion)
I am playing that next for my Youtube Channel.