Joust with the Black Knight
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Rudy
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Joust with the Black Knight
Sigh... I'm stuck. In order to obtain a perfect score on Conquests of Camelot, you need to defeat the Black Knight in a joust competition on hard level without once falling yourself. Problem is: I can't see where his spear will land, so how do I know where to hold my shield? Been trying and failing for hours now.
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Re: Joust with the Black Knight
I've heard of two ways to easily beat the Black Knight:
1. Don't move your lance. Some people say that if you don't move the lance, it'll hit the BK correctly and knock him off his horse.
2. Don't aim at the BK's shield, aim for the BK himself.
Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly how I beat him in the past. I do know, however, that I have unseated the BK without ever getting knocked off my own horse.
If you want, I could give it a shot. Just send me your saved game.
1. Don't move your lance. Some people say that if you don't move the lance, it'll hit the BK correctly and knock him off his horse.
2. Don't aim at the BK's shield, aim for the BK himself.
Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly how I beat him in the past. I do know, however, that I have unseated the BK without ever getting knocked off my own horse.
If you want, I could give it a shot. Just send me your saved game.
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Rudy
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Re: Joust with the Black Knight
Thank you, DPX. I finally succeeded after some 4 hours 
. Douglas Herring, one of the art designers and the creator of the joust sequence, also just said this: "The secret is to memories and react properly to his moves. He does everything in a four blow sequence. By the first three moves you should know what he is going to do next, and attack accordingly."
. Douglas Herring, one of the art designers and the creator of the joust sequence, also just said this: "The secret is to memories and react properly to his moves. He does everything in a four blow sequence. By the first three moves you should know what he is going to do next, and attack accordingly."Sierra Chest creator, Sierra collector/curator.
Re: Joust with the Black Knight
In my recent attempt to study thoroughly CoC, I tried also to study the Black Knight.
For sure, I can tell that the Knight doesn't establish his shield's and lance's position until he is some steps away from you; let's call this point X. I had kept various screenshots of the four positions of the lance after point X, and indeed I can tell that the lance's perspective is quite poorly drawn. It's not easy to determine from the graphics which point he aims at.
However unlike you, he doesn't change this position after point X. That means that between point X and the "collision", you have still time to move your lance.
In short, you can "fool" the Knight, and when you see that he has positioned his shield, you can quickly change the position of your lance and shield and hit him.
In the Hard Skill, I have discovered that on point X, the Knight aims at the exact opposite "corner" of your shield position: If you had your shield on up-left position, the Knight will certainly aim at your down-right and you can safely and blindly move your shield there; even if your lance doesn't hit him, you can be sure that you won't fall.
Note that strangely, this doesn't work in Medium and Easy Skill!!! In the easier skills he uses some other algorithm (perhaps the one Herring describes)
For sure, I can tell that the Knight doesn't establish his shield's and lance's position until he is some steps away from you; let's call this point X. I had kept various screenshots of the four positions of the lance after point X, and indeed I can tell that the lance's perspective is quite poorly drawn. It's not easy to determine from the graphics which point he aims at.
However unlike you, he doesn't change this position after point X. That means that between point X and the "collision", you have still time to move your lance.
In short, you can "fool" the Knight, and when you see that he has positioned his shield, you can quickly change the position of your lance and shield and hit him.
In the Hard Skill, I have discovered that on point X, the Knight aims at the exact opposite "corner" of your shield position: If you had your shield on up-left position, the Knight will certainly aim at your down-right and you can safely and blindly move your shield there; even if your lance doesn't hit him, you can be sure that you won't fall.
Note that strangely, this doesn't work in Medium and Easy Skill!!! In the easier skills he uses some other algorithm (perhaps the one Herring describes)