Tawmis wrote:oberonqa wrote:
This is very true. I made an exception when it came to seeing the Star Wars prequels in the theater. However... I have yet to purchase any of them on any home video format (VHS or DVD). Why? Because Lucas has already shown a penchant for "tinkering" with his movies and releasing the latest fruits of said tinkering on home video.
Why should I pay the price to own the Star Wars trilogy on VHS when I knew the prequels were coming out? That was the rationale I used when that particular box set was released. Then the prequels came out on DVD. Why should I pay the price to own this prequel trilogy when I know there's going to be a series boxset that contains all six movies?
Lo and behold, now they are prepping a blue-ray release of the entire series. And yet again, I find myself asking why should I buy THAT when I know that sooner or later, Lucas is going to "discover" lost footage of the prequels and inject that into the prequels and release that.
Lucas's handling of the Star Wars series is why I have never purchased a Star Wars movie and probably never will. I have no faith that whatever flavor of the year I'm buying won't be trumped by something else NEXT year.
I've already been burned by that with the Lord of the Rings trilogy, truth be told. I didn't purchase the theatrical edition DVD's because I knew about the Extended Editions. So I purchased those. Now, they got the Theatrical Edition Blu-Ray set out and there is rumblings about an Extended Edition Blu-Ray set coming out sometime next year. It's the same exact thing... and I find myself starting to lump Peter Jackson into the same category as George Lucas.
So... let me get this straight...
You have not purchased Star Wars on VHS... because they were going to come out on DVD... then, you figured you wouldn't buy them on DVD because a better version with "lost footage" was going to come out on DVD... then you decided to hold off on that, because BluRay versions of them are going to come out... and you're not sure you're going to buy those either, because SURLY... some newer version of it will come out...?
Explain something to me. If you could.
Do you own a computer? If so? Why? I mean, no doubt there's going to be a faster processor soon. So why pay for one? Or a better video card, with better memory and such on it?
And do you own a car? If so? Why? Because clearly, they're going to make the next set of cars with better gas milage. And why even get one that deals with gas? Why not get a hybrid? Or - wait for it - one that's completely solar? Or whatever the next one is?
By that theory of always holding out for the next one, and thus refusing to get what's there currently - you would, essentially, be living under a rock. (Because why buy a house that uses electricity, when one day there will be one that's only solar? Or something else...)
These are all valid counter-points.... allow me to answer each one in kind:
Do I own a computer? Yes I do. Why do I own a computer when, like you say, there's always going to be better processors and video cards coming out? The answer is.... a computer only does what a computer can do. I build a computer every 5-6 years... so the investment in building a computer pays out over the course of 5-6 years. I've never purchased Star Wars because there's always something new being put into it that makes it the "definitive" set. Be it new scenes or more behind-the-scenes special stuff.... the investment in a Star Wars collection only lasts until a new collection comes out.
Do I own a car? Yes I do. Why do I own a car when, like you say, they are always coming out with something that has better mileage, runs on solar power, etc? Because a car, to me, is designed to get me from point A to point B. Nothing that they come up with (short of air-cars that were promised in both Jetsons AND Back to the Future) takes away from this. A car, to me, is about going from point A to point B.... my 1982 Chevy Astro still gets the job done quite well.
And do I own a home? Yes I do. Why do I own a home when, like you say, one day there will be solar equipped houses instead of electricity? Because a home, to me, is a place that weathers the elements... a place of sanctuary. In fact, the home I own was built in 1952. And still does it's job admirably well.
The point here is long-term investment. In the case of a car, home, or computer, your dealing with a long-term investment. It is true that when you buy a car, said car looses half it's value the moment you drive it off the lot. It is also true that when you buy a computer, it looses half it's value the moment you buy it. However, the functionality of these purchases does not decrease for many years.
A computer, if built intelligently, has no problem lasting 5-6 years... something that can only be said now (as opposed to 15-20 years ago when computer technology was moving at breakneck pace). The computer does not loose it's core functionality if built intelligently (this is a rather fine point and a potential topic for another time.... as it goes far beyond the scope of the current topic). Sure new processors and video cards are always coming out... but do you really need a Radeon 6800 video card when you can still play the games of today on a Radeon 4850 (which came out 4 years ago)? Likewise.... do you really need a 6-core processor when the majority of consumer programs coming out are just starting to take advantage of dual-core processors (I don't classify video encoding applications as consumer programs.... so don't even try going there.)?
A car, no matter when it was purchased, can provide it's core functionality of providing transportation between point A and point B for decades, making it reliable. Having a hybrid does not add to or take away from a car's core functionality of going between point A and point B. Short of the aft-mentioned Air Cars, there is no advancement in the automotive arena that should warrant a delayed purchase.
And likewise, a home, no matter when it was build, can provide it's core functionality for decades, making it reliable. More importantly, you can purchase solar panel or wind-generator kits to add onto your house if you should desire these features.
All three of these instances differ greatly from purchasing a Star Wars collection. In fact, do you realize that in the last 15 years, we've had the following collections released:
Star Wars Trilogy - VHS - 1995
Star Wars Special Edition Trilogy - VHS - 1997
Star Wars Trilogy Full Screen - DVD - 2004
Star Wars Trilogy Widescreen - DVD - 2004
Star Wars Trilogy without Bonus Disc - DVD - 2005
Star Wars Trilogy Widescreen without Bonus Disc - DVD - 2005
Star Wars Special Edition Trilogy - DVD - 2008
Star Wars Prequel Trilogy - DVD - 2008
That's 8 separate collection SKU's released in the last 15 years.... and now Lucas is prepping the blu-ray version(s) of the who thing. Your telling me you don't see a problem here? If you don't, then Lucas must love you. Me... if I ever own the collection, it'll be after Lucas has passed away and his children make a public statement stating they won't tinker with their father's masterpiece.
Not like I don't have the entire series perma-stored on my DVR.
Tawmis wrote:DeadPoolX wrote:
The SW prequels were different in that they are prequels, not sequels. With a prequel, you know a certain set of events have to occur. We don't know how those events will be displayed, however, which is why we watch.
More to the point, no one knew the prequels would ever be released. ROTJ came out in 1983 and although there had been talk about making Episodes 1-3, nothing came of it until 1999. By that time, very few people even considered a prequel trilogy a possibility (if they even thought of it at all).
Aye, but I was saying - why go see Episode 01, when you KNOW (without a doubt) there will be an Episode 02 and Episode 03. You're still doing it by episodes. Why not wait till all three are out, purchase them and watch them in one sitting?
(Again, not something I'd do - merely playing the devil's advocate!)

Ironically, I have friends who felt this way and didn't see the prequel trilogy until after Episode 3 came out.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.